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    Angry Pearl Harboured

    Yesterday afternoon in Alliance chat I got a question - How strong are your defences. Like a dumb-#### I replied honestly, even added my second city defences to be helpful.

    Last night at 2am I got a 30K army and a 26K army attacking both my major cities with no prior scouting and no announcement of Hostilities commencing. Both attacking parties have about 130% of my Prestige, so it's not like they're using espionage to even the odds or anything. Either could have just walked in and kicked me over with little effort. Pretty obviously someone is running at least a double account, maybe a triple in order to put a spy in our alliance.

    Is this a fair use of extra accounts? I think they're being misused.

    Be careful what you say in Alliance chat. Host and Vice Hosts should reach for that expel button if any Alliance member asks other members for defence capability.
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    Never happened to me but I agree with you.
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    I think I might move this to General Discussion, I think it belongs there better.

    Let me know if you disagree.

    Also, to the misuse of multi accounts like that, I'm fairly sure the rule hasn't been finalized, but things like this will not be allowed.
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    you just got rolled and now you want to point a blame

    you were probly just a fat target

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sukasai View Post
    I think I might move this to General Discussion, I think it belongs there better.

    Let me know if you disagree.

    Also, to the misuse of multi accounts like that, I'm fairly sure the rule hasn't been finalized, but things like this will not be allowed.
    Spying doesn't require one person having multiple accounts...

    There are alliances playing evony that play other games together. In these other games multi-accounting, spying, stealing, and all other nefarious playstyles are common place.

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    But the spying that would involve just one person with multiple accounts wouldn't be tolerated.

    Spying that doesn't involve it is fine.

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    Bear in mind that many alliances are not very discriminating in who they invite. If you are in an alliance that extends "join or die" invitations to people, you shouldn't be surprised if some of those players are less than loyal.

    I guess what I'm getting at is someone need not have multiple accounts to do something like this. Joining an alliance to spy for another alliance is not against the game rules.
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    Your "defence" was irrelevent. Once they know your coordinates, it's all over. As you pointed out. You were zerged. 30K armies that were going to wipe out your defences anyway. A 4 day old player can have 30K warriors.

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    I trust my alliance members and kill my aggressors. 15k archer towers and 40k ballistas can kill any attacking force.
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    Greetings,

    Maybe I can clarify this thread a little. The original poster asked...

    Quote Originally Posted by fuaubu_al View Post
    Yesterday afternoon in Alliance chat I got a question - How strong are your defences.... Last night at 2am I got a 30K army and a 26K army attacking both my major cities with no prior scouting and no announcement of Hostilities commencing....Pretty obviously someone is running at least a double account, maybe a triple in order to put a spy in our alliance........Is this a fair use of extra accounts? I think they're being misused.
    Fuaubu_al is implying that his/her attackers misused accounts to gain information which lead to the demise of his/her city. By having one account in Fuaubu_al's alliance, and at least one other in another alliance, the attackers were able to gain information about Fuaubu_al's city. This would be information they did not normally have.

    However unfortunate your loss Fuaubu_al, it should be noted that it could not be proven that the said aggressors did infact miss-use multiple accounts. Although it is true that this could be proven by an examination of IP address and so on, to do so would be very resource demanding. Can you imagine if the Game Masters had to examine every such claim?

    As long as there are people that play, there will be people that abuse the system. Take this as a learning experience and prepare yourself for your next city. This could be the best thing this player did for you, creating a more educated and cautious you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sukasai View Post
    Also, to the misuse of multi accounts like that, I'm fairly sure the rule hasn't been finalized, but things like this will not be allowed.
    It is not clear that there was a miss-use of multiple accounts. It would be one thing if the OP had concrete proof, however he/she does not. Above all else we have to consider the possibility of coincident. Attacks will happen, and I could be wrong, and I am sure this will not be a type of event that Game Masters will be allowed to investigate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nesterus View Post
    you just got rolled and now you want to point a blame you were probly just a fat target
    Although you can almost sense the frustration of the original poster, I do not think his/her only intent was to find blame in someone. It is clear they had concerns for the system being possibly abused by the said attackers. We cannot fault them for voicing their concerns.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chemlab187 View Post
    Spying doesn't require one person having multiple accounts...Have Fun!
    This thread is clearly not about methods of spying, but about the miss-use of multiple accounts. And for the record although I do not know the original poster I can see how one might take offense at your "Have Fun" comment at the end of your post. Please try to be professional in your statements, as wishing someone fun who just had frustrating gaming experience is not professional. Granted you may have not intended ill will, but it would be better to air on the side of caution when dealing with an upset member of this community.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sukasai View Post
    But the spying that would involve just one person with multiple accounts wouldn't be tolerated. Spying that doesn't involve it is fine.
    Again this goes back to the line of proof. No names were shared here, and there likely will not be a way to tack such aggressors on a large scale. I think the best thing for the community would be self education on how the game works and the best methods to protect against those that choose to bend the rules.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    Bear in mind that many alliances are not very discriminating in who they invite. If you are in an alliance that extends "join or die" invitations to people, you shouldn't be surprised if some of those players are less than loyal. I guess what I'm getting at is someone need not have multiple accounts to do something like this. Joining an alliance to spy for another alliance is not against the game rules.
    Very true. There are a number of alliances that have spies. Why not? It happens in real life, why should the game be different. We adapt, we learn and we eventually figure ways to know who to trust and who not to. False information can be a great tool for flushing out spies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sisohiv View Post
    Your "defence" was irrelevent. Once they know your coordinates, it's all over. As you pointed out. You were zerged. 30K armies that were going to wipe out your defences anyway. A 4 day old player can have 30K warriors.
    Defense is not irrelevant. One can defend with correct setup and appropriately leveled research. By creating the correct group of counter troops a player can repel any attack, and with the advent of the wall defenses, they actually have the upper hand. If you cannot get enough troops built, simply make vast Warehouses to protect your resources and make sure you keep your cities loyalty up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Arumen View Post
    I trust my alliance members and kill my aggressors. 15k archer towers and 40k ballistas can kill any attacking force.
    But how does that help out the original poster? Do you have something constructive to add?

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