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    Quote Originally Posted by scoompomfroro View Post
    Mayan End of the World 2012. According to the Mayan calendar on Dec. 21, 2012 Ends Great Cycle, which was called "The Fifth Sun".
    Cycle had 5126 years length, and began on 13 August 3113 BC. Some claim that in this year Mayan calendar ends,
    which could mean the end of the world. In fact, after attending the next cycle of the Mayan calendar going to be, "The Sixth Sun" or "Sixth Age of Creation"
    Actually no, this is incorrect. You're thinking of the Calendar Round, which lasted only 52 years.

    Unfortunately I know the details only from an Aztec PoV, but allow me to indulge:

    The calender was divided into 365 days, eighteen months of twenty days, with five "nameless days" tacked on the end. These five days, of which "technically" didn't exist (due to being between yearly cycles) was a period of fear and worry for the Nahua people, who believed they were lost to the eyes of the gods and were vulnerable to demons that would destroy them upon discovery. Thus, the Nahua people spent these days hiding their existence from the demons. They would leave no house, light no torches, speak no words, and engage in no revelry, lest they draw the attention of fel beings which would surely destroy them.*

    They believed each cycle of time lasted 52 years, and would perform the New Fire ceremony at the end of each 52 years, to bind the 52-year cycles together to prevent the end of the world. The success was determined by the rising of the sun the next dawn.

    Mayans followed the same sort of calendar, though I think their beliefs were slightly different (though largely similar) to the Aztecs. I'm not entirely familiar with it though.

    The Mayan Calendar has the Long Count system in addition to the Calendar Round, of which December 21, 2012 is simply the beginning of the 14th cycle of b'ak'tun, a cycle of 144,000 days, or 20 ka'tuns, of which itself is only a milestone to the first cycle of piktun (or something), which takes 20 cycles of b'ak'tuns. And BTW, 14 cycles of b'ak'tun is closer to 5520~ years or something, not 5126.

    Fearing that to be the end of the world would be similar to me fearing the end of the world will come at 11:59:59 of December 31st, 2010, because that's where my calendar ends (actually it has a small cliffnote box showing up to January 31st, 2011, but whatever). There's no such physical manifestation of a perpetual calendar, and thus, all calenders are going to be marked off at one completed cycle or another. Chances are, the Mayans simply couldn't be arsed to carve another b'ak'tun cycle when they had some 2000~ years to procrastinate. And rightly so.

    Seeing how the world has gone on for nine and a half 52-year cycles without the last New Fire ceremony, and we've spent each December 26-31 partying and all that nonsense directly in front of foul demons without being devoured, I think it's safe to say that, at least according to Aztec and Mayan beliefs, the proposed end of the world hasn't and won't come.

    *My recollection of this is somewhat blurry, but I think it's close enough.

    TL;DR

    You, good sir spambot, are horribly misinformed and superstitious. Your programmer should be ashamed.
    Last edited by Alusair; 05-29-2010 at 08:15 AM. Reason: slight revision
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