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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by N0T0 View Post

    I would like to see Evony make spying against the rules...I understand that spying goes on in real world war... However, it is punishable by death. In evony, the spy is just booted. The spies are really making evony life difficult for the hard working evony'ers to find good homes among strong alliances. If spying were against the rules, and punishable by death in evony....there may still be some spies, but the consequences that they would absorb would keep their numbers to a minumum.
    The punishment for spying varies by the country that decides the sentence. So which country's rules would you apply to a global game? Or could it be that just like the real world, different governing bodies could have the flexibility to design their own consquences?

    And I don't know about your alliance, but I assure you, in mine, spies are NOT "just booted." They're booted, their cities are sacked, and their loyalty is driven to 0 in their last city. The hope is that we've wiped out days/weeks/month of work, and perhaps even $ spent. We make a point of finding all their cities, and staying after the spy for quite some time to make our point. Probably doesn't deter people from trying to spy on us, but there are a slew of laws around the world that don't deter people from breaking them.

    Just play the game.

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    any1 can be a double agent, some people can say things not thinking it means anything but actually it helps the other alliance decide when to attack. Every country has it's spies and they have to deal with it. Why should evony have to deal with alliances that aren't able to catch spies in their ranks.

    the only case where its rule breaking is where they make a second account or are given a second account and use that to help them against there enemy; then its up to you to collect evidence and send it off as a report of multi accounting

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    spies are spies and as much a part of the game as my faithfull ponies are

    u can always try to catch and kill them but those who have been hunting them know how hard that is to really know if u got teh right one
    and how much fun it is to start a spy hunt in alliances you are at war with as tehy normally only get rit of teh maybe ppl - it is seldom teh real spies tehy get

    as a big alliance u have to accept ppl try to sneak spies into your ranks and always act as they are there even if u are not sure

    do i hate spies - nope .... do i want to kill them - yep ... do i want to use them when in war - sure

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    Okay, so let's subject all spies to involuntary surrender of their souls, or of fragments thereof.
    From now on, all spies will have their souls sold to Evony and receive a speaker in exchange.
    Hold it... what if I'm not a spy? Am I going to be punished without having done anything?

    The methods of catching spies are sketchy at best. It's best that we use a 100% sure way to catching them. Anything short of that... well, you've probably heard of the Salem Witch Trials.

    And, as TCWNME pointed out, spying is a tactic. I use it. I've also been blamed for it when I wasn't spying. It takes just as much (if not more) skill than actually playing according to nonexistent "rules" established by the incompetent players who could not understand the nature of the enemy.

    Nice try, but fail.



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    I completely agree with the above messages however, I have been turned down because people thought i was a spy. I have never spied in my life

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    The question is, how are the spies existing?

    The point here is completely immaterial to the concept of spying being true or not but should be considered in any form.

    In my playing, a number of spies I've found were all secondary accounts of another player in an opposing alliance, if this is the case, there is the way of having them put to death, report them to the company where they will be inconvenienced by some form when they are banned.
    This has been a very serious message by a very silly Malafae.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malafae View Post
    The question is, how are the spies existing?

    The point here is completely immaterial to the concept of spying being true or not but should be considered in any form.

    In my playing, a number of spies I've found were all secondary accounts of another player in an opposing alliance, if this is the case, there is the way of having them put to death, report them to the company where they will be inconvenienced by some form when they are banned.
    That's the way it will happen 90%+ of the time. A "spy" will normally be a second account of someone, which is technically against the rules.

    If a person used their own account, got into an alliance and was divulging information to another alliance, that is one kind of spying, and the only kind that is fully "ok" under the rules of the game. However, most people know that the spying being discussed in this thread doesn't happen this way; that it happens via a second account of someone.

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    Spying is part of the game. Although annoying, the game would be dead boring without some bad guys to weed out and kill, provided they are doing it within the game's rules. One example, I have had people who were promised something by an enemy alliance and were giving info to them. That is within game rules...just shows that the person is of poor character and nothing can or should be done about except seek them out and destroy.

    Another Example.. I booted one the other day. He had two accounts, one in my alliance and one in a friendly and was copy/pasting my alliance chat to them to start a war... BUT they told me and booted him. I then copy/pasted the mail into my alliance chat for him to see and I booted him too. Spying may be an integral part of the game, although dishonourable, but spying from multiple accounts? This I cannot stand.
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    I know that it has been repeated again and again, but would like to mention that spying is a legitimate tactic that the enemies can employ, however multi-accounting is not.


    Also how will you prove someone is really spying unless you catch them in the act? The best spies are the ones that can gain the enemies trust to their best advantage and bring everything down from underneath their feet when the push comes to a shove, they wont make mistakes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost101 View Post
    I know that it has been repeated again and again, but would like to mention that spying is a legitimate tactic that the enemies can employ, however multi-accounting is not.
    ...and the bulk of "spying" efforts take place through the usage of multi-accounting, thus the bulk of the spying is not performed via legitimate means...

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