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    I am sorry for what I am about to write but:

    Joda where the hell is that nude pic of U I've asked about 3 times now!

    And to act as a grownup I must say I too think Murduch went a bit to far this time. But as I still like the idiot I am somewhat in a clinch (U dumb fook Duch!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaibert View Post
    yes...another threat at evony...people won't want to play in an environment accepting of Murdoch's antics. People won't want their children exposed to this kind of behaviour, clearly prohibited in the terms and conditions. These are truly threats levied, yessirree...not in any way reasonable hypotheses based on world observations.
    Freedom of speech laws do not allow you to post sexually harassing messages to other people. Cyber-bullying has been equated as a form of stalking, and can be criminally prosecuted.
    If you were doing this in a company setting, you'd be fired. If a coach publically announced objectionable beliefs to the media, he'd be fined by the league. To claim freedom of speech in this case is not only inapplicable, but absurd. Verbal abuse is not something to be tolerated. And certainly not on world chat. I have sent objectionable mail to people, saying things they might not like to hear, but I have always managed to do so explaining the reasons for my beliefs, behaviours, and I have never resorted to the type of name calling and sexually explicit material dealt with here. The fact is, this should not be allowed on any evony server, and sociopath, your attempts to defend it border on the ridiculous.

    As stated earlier, trash talk is acceptable. Threaten to drop me to one city all you want. Tell me I have no skills as a player. Tell me you could take all my cities in a day. But as soon as you make it personal, you go too far. Even yo' mama jokes, technically speaking, if an 'offender' is asked to stop, fall under harassment laws. I'm not saying all such interactions need to be stopped, but if reported, they need to be followed up on, and the results need to be reported to the victim, even if it is determined that the victim isn't one. A clear line needs to be established, and this is the perfect opportunity to do it.
    The laws you people seem to think you know are all wrong. As regardless of were the server is based the user is still protected to some degree by their own local laws. I suggest you read up on it

    I'm defending nothing. I am attacking the spoonfed idiots who think they deserve everything and if they don't get what they want then they throw threats around.

    If you don't like it then ignore it. If you can't ignore it then you are lacking in intelligence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andyreas View Post
    I am sorry for what I am about to write but:

    Joda where the hell is that nude pic of U I've asked about 3 times now!

    You only asked once Andy.... and you wont get it like the other one did

    Up to 4 people asked now
    Last edited by joda; 05-31-2010 at 08:33 AM.

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    Joda is the best..... host, friend, confidante, sweetheart....
    Quote Originally Posted by Wildor View Post
    Some people just need to be offended, and therefore victimized. That's all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joda View Post
    The whole nude pic thing... anyone who asks an underage girl for that has issues. But I have been asked more times than I have asked.. 3-0
    ONCE again, joda is caught in a LIE!!! Yeah, you joda, remember after you sent those pics to me, and you asked for some of mine, so thats 3/1 (that i know of, your a SNAEAKY ONE).....

    and aithne, really girl, block murdoch and get over it...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by cybercyr View Post
    ONCE again, joda is caught in a LIE!!! Yeah, you joda, remember after you sent those pics to me, and you asked for some of mine, so thats 3/1 (that i know of, your a SNAEAKY ONE).....

    and aithne, really girl, block murdoch and get over it...........
    I suggested didn't ask.....either way you sent them so if you want to count that then its 4-1 now
    Last edited by joda; 05-31-2010 at 09:21 AM.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anam-Cara View Post
    Joda is the best..... host, friend, confidante, sweetheart....
    Quote Originally Posted by Wildor View Post
    Some people just need to be offended, and therefore victimized. That's all.

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    Okay, I've replaced the user in question with That guy as you can all see. Calling people out publicly whether they are guilty or not is against the rules, and prevents innocent as well as guilty people from being slandered.

    As for your concerns, they are legitimate. I too hate to see people like that seemingly roam free. How many of you have reported him specifically in-game? via helpspot.evony.com? I'm pretty sure if each one of you brought your concerns and told anyone that DID have a concern about him they would notice this wasn't just mere coincidence. They have to investigate each claim individually, yes, because you wouldn't believe how many people falsely report people just because they don't like them.

    I've seen people disappear after other people have reported them, it DOES happen. The problem with any online game is that this happens, it's not like an xbox game where you know what you're getting (and if anyone plays, even family games online are tainted... It's ridiculous and sad people aren't more mindful).

    I'm not trying to start a flame war here, I'm just stating that we need to be mindful ourselves, and take action where kids will not. If any of you have seen anything inappropriate, report it. The reports are there to help because there are WAY too many players at this point to monitor 24/7. Our forum barely has %10 of the players and I sometimes find myself missing things, and when you report things it really really helps!


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    Quote Originally Posted by AbstractAngel View Post
    Okay, I've replaced the user in question with That guy as you can all see. Calling people out publicly whether they are guilty or not is against the rules, and prevents innocent as well as guilty people from being slandered.
    It's always "That guy"

    Quote Originally Posted by Anam-Cara View Post
    Joda is the best..... host, friend, confidante, sweetheart....
    Quote Originally Posted by Wildor View Post
    Some people just need to be offended, and therefore victimized. That's all.

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    AbstractAngel I have a few questions for you or any other moderator?

    First one is, how does one file a complaint when helpspot.evony.com does not work? I have been talking to a number of players and I found that a number of players can only get error messages off this. (yes I should put this in bugs forum).

    Second, I have found that Evony will not reply to these players since they didn't go though the proper channels.

    This problem is why it has ended up on the forums!

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    I wasn't going to weigh into this debate but decided to voice a few thoughts.

    The messages, WC comments etc... are all done by that person to elicit a reaction or a response. At its most basic, it is simple attention seeking. I could surmise as to the reasons for the behaviour, but ultimately it doesn't matter, nor does it progress this discussion.

    The simple solution, in my opinion, is to block the offending player and immediately delete all mail without reading. As an aggressive player, and the previous host of a very aggressive alliance I got (and still get) my share of abuse. I deal with, like an adult.

    To buy into the comments, become outraged, respond and otherwise act like some sort of victim makes this whole issue self-perpetuating.

    Western Society has devolved into an 'its always somebody elses fault' mentality. No one is prepared to be responsible for themselves, their children etc... If you think evony had too much adult content for children, don't let them play. The advertisements alone are enough for me, as a parent, to determine that.

    Everyone take a deep breath, remember this is a stupid online game and relax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sociopath View Post
    The laws you people seem to think you know are all wrong. As regardless of were the server is based the user is still protected to some degree by their own local laws. I suggest you read up on it

    I'm defending nothing. I am attacking the spoonfed idiots who think they deserve everything and if they don't get what they want then they throw threats around.

    If you don't like it then ignore it. If you can't ignore it then you are lacking in intelligence.
    Ok, now you are really embaressing yourself.

    Yes, trash talk is obviously acceptable, however when it reaches the point of bringing personal matters into the game, it is both upsetting, and wrong.

    And for all you people telling her to block Murdoch and get over it, he can still type these things on world chat, which is what he has been doing, as well as using his many multi-accounts to continue this behaviour.

    Sociopath, stop defending what he did. His words are not right, in any society or public game that people have access to.

    Action needs to be taken, do Evony not care about their customers?

    If not, then simply enforcing the rules they set out seems the least they can do.

    @Soranto:

    Your point is well taken and I understand your views.

    But simply ignoring people just does not cut it these days, ecspecially in a game that children have access to.

    I know you are not approving this behaviour, but I really do believe action needs to be taken. If nothing happens, then everybody can start acting in this way, and simply ignoring people will not work.


    And also, the fact that this discussion has been bought to the forum, really does say something about evonys 'helpspot' service, or lack of.
    Last edited by OPTiiMUM; 06-01-2010 at 08:45 AM.
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