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    Quote Originally Posted by neko_lord View Post
    I had a minimal amount of materials remaining from early-game cent quests where I bought an ore box and/or where the wheel gave me wood, fabric, or thoroughbreds. Not only did the materials stop dropping from valleys / NPCs, the wheel changed too. I noted it in another thread where I mentioned I had nearly 2 weeks of inconsequential Age I items dropping from Age II (server NA1). The wheel has changed again, with Age II items being more frequent, but they're typically strategems. I've gotten 2 "Cover up army maneuvers" in the past week...

    My point was that the script drop was gear-related, so the notion that it is "possible" to get these things can still be perpetuated, even though most everyone can see that it would take an eternity to level up without spending cash.

    I wish Evony would understand that wanting to spend cash because of impatience is one thing, but having to spend cash to be competitive is another. With the rampant examples of ADHD I see every day on several servers, there are plenty of impatient people. Changing the definition of "impatient" to mean "being able to level up 1 level in a year" is just a smidge of overkill. A "challenge" is challenging, up to a point. Past that point, it becomes not worth it. With the current way of things, most people are going to decide that Age II is not worth it...

    I made that point long ago: example-> the coiners that spend coins to get ahead such as faster hero gear levels..they have level 10 hero gear and not a single hero past level 50 LOL.

    people with 1million or under prestige princezein buying medal boxes etc.

    The entire point of the cents business model is to give the people whow ant to use money the competitive EDGE (not the competitive stomp your ass into the ground) and to give them that extra boost and shortcut that people that will grind and play the game for hours do, without spending money.

    Evony is pure greed right now and that shows with the drops being shorted.


    they do not understand that not only are they screwing over the free players, but the players that player also experience this lack of drops, they hear it from their guildees and they all get sour taste in their mouth and quit.

    retaining customers for repeat business is what you need to do to succeed. all evony is doing is running customers off. they snatch 30-60 bucks form people and could care less if that player is satisfied or continues playing. Just as long as they FORCE people into buying, and people buy their cents, and quit. Evony could really care less and it shows.

    I still have 7-8 helptickets left unsolved. not to mention the continued troop training bugs, drop rates being effed up etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by neko_lord View Post
    Spending time "leveled the playing field". Now, since some of us intentionally don't have a Facebook (or other social networking site) account because we don't like putting our lives on display and/or have privacy concerns about Facebook, we are at an extreme disadvantage.
    There is no reason not to use facebook, but if you are using Facebook for RL things like family correspondance then set up a NEW FB account just for evony. It takes only a few minutes, and you only have to add basic info (which can be completely made up). No risk of security as no personal info needs to be included.
    Now I use Fb and had major problems getting it to link for the first month, which did cause me a lot of annoyance as I was far behind others on the server due to this handycap. However I am now ranked 200 on server, and I have spend a grand total of 10$ since the start (those two 5$ offers).
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    Napolleon, please stop going on about drops, it simply results in threads being closed or deleted. Dawnseeker knows we (and you) are unhappy about it.
    They simply prefer to make money off the selling of materials, which personally I think is a disasterous idea, but thats their call.
    I have gotten the odd lost armour script, and for the first time in over a month I got a Mick script off a lv.5 npc, so drops for these other items do exist, if extremely rare indeed.
    Amulets, Warhorns, Speech Texts, Holy Water, etc are on FB, and that is a big help. Gifts also include amulets and so its not as bad as it seems.
    No-one thinks that no drops of materials is a GOOD thing for players, but as the admins repeat, they must make a living and they decided that this was their best bet.
    They may change their minds when they realise they are wrong, but that will only occur when they review the spending habits of customers, not from repeated moaning on forums.
    If you recall I was one of the lead moaners, and we finally got them to admit they altered it, calling it a bug (which may be true as evony bug testing is hardly foolproof).
    Whether they should have fixed it was up to the devs.

    As far as the admins saying they still drop, well you are right, no-one has ever posted that they received any drop of any materials since they did it. Which makes the rate either insanely low (unfair) or still bugged.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scythe View Post
    There is no reason not to use facebook,
    That's your opinion, and you're certainly entitled to it. However, I am a private person by nature. I do not have a Facebook account or any other social networking account.

    but if you are using Facebook for RL things like family correspondance then set up a NEW FB account just for evony.
    Again, this is against Facebook's rules. It states that you are only supposed to have one personal account and you are to provide your real name and other factual information. Just because you or others don't have a problem violating rules does not mean it's a good thing to suggest that others violate rules to be competitive.

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    If you don't use them anyway, why would you be afraid of violating their rules? :P

    That's like being afraid of getting banned from the library, when your illiterate lol

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    I agree. You should not have to use Facebook to progress in the game if you do not want to.
    And since that bug was fixed the drop rates are lowered to what they were intended originally, but the problem is I have not seen any material drops other than lost armour scripts for months. Everything else like mic scripts, and hero hunting etc. has been dropping often enough, I am beginning to think either something else has gone wrong, or the drop rates for materials is now so extremely low that you are unable to find anything for weeks on end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TCWNME
    I agree. You should not have to use Facebook to progress in the game if you do not want to.
    And since that bug was fixed the drop rates are lowered to what they were intended originally, but the problem is I have not seen any material drops other than lost armour scripts for months. Everything else like mic scripts, and hero hunting etc. has been dropping often enough, I am beginning to think either something else has gone wrong, or the drop rates for materials is now so extremely low that you are unable to find anything for weeks on end.
    I havent found any materials either for weeks now all ive found is some medals and scripts...it could be a little more frequent..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woldere View Post
    If you don't use them anyway, why would you be afraid of violating their rules? :P

    That's like being afraid of getting banned from the library, when your illiterate lol
    Rules are rules. People broke rules here when they used bots. Now rules are being broken there to gain bot-like advantages (free food, troops, amulets, speedups, horns, etc...)

    Rules are rules. Breaking them there just means that they (Facebook) have to be the ones to police it.

    Telling people to break rules to be able to compete is certainly within someone's rights to do, but it does not make it right to do it...
    Oh, and "everyone else is doing it" also does not make it right...
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    Quote Originally Posted by scythe View Post
    Napolleon, please stop going on about drops, it simply results in threads being closed or deleted. Dawnseeker knows we (and you) are unhappy about it.
    They simply prefer to make money off the selling of materials, which personally I think is a disasterous idea, but thats their call.
    I have gotten the odd lost armour script, and for the first time in over a month I got a Mick script off a lv.5 npc, so drops for these other items do exist, if extremely rare indeed.
    Amulets, Warhorns, Speech Texts, Holy Water, etc are on FB, and that is a big help. Gifts also include amulets and so its not as bad as it seems.
    No-one thinks that no drops of materials is a GOOD thing for players, but as the admins repeat, they must make a living and they decided that this was their best bet.
    They may change their minds when they realise they are wrong, but that will only occur when they review the spending habits of customers, not from repeated moaning on forums.
    If you recall I was one of the lead moaners, and we finally got them to admit they altered it, calling it a bug (which may be true as evony bug testing is hardly foolproof).
    Whether they should have fixed it was up to the devs.

    As far as the admins saying they still drop, well you are right, no-one has ever posted that they received any drop of any materials since they did it. Which makes the rate either insanely low (unfair) or still bugged.

    they run this company beyond poorly, and its not like it is even patented or original flash based game when there are literally about 100 of these same games out there. now the coins system is there to give boost upgrades to lazy players and even when stuff was dropping coins were selling, so they get greedy and reduce all drops FORCING purchases. which decreases overall happiness and customer loyalty. which means they quit move on, and earn less overall money than if they were not a greedy selfish company.

    people will always buy coins, its there for the ppl with more money than brains to buy so that they can get or think they can get advantage. but right now thats the ONLY way to get upgrades/hero gear etc which is beyond wrong.

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    Did not disagree with the issue that evony is forcing players to spend to gain decent heroes, either with Historical Heroes (which is still VERY poorly designed and buggy as hell) or the gear, and is IMPOSSIBLE to upgrade past lv2 without paying or winning materials on wheel. I have mine only up to lv.3 and 4, partly due to the early drops, wheel spins and paying for them (but they are simply too expensive to continue as they scale up unrealistically).
    However calling evony greedy is not fair, of course they are but thats to be expected. All businesses are (banks, supermarkets, manufacturers are not charities). The difference is whether they have a good and logical business strategy that maximises the profit to cost margin or are they just guessing and going for the easiest method in their view (no drops for players to spend).
    Personally I am DIScouraged to spend money as I do not see value in it, and this is killing evony for me and many others. the gear requires far too much materials per level and are far too expensive to buy. If evony expects an average player to pay 500 USD to play their game properly then they are not living in the real world. If evony planned that 100USD per player was considered a good estimate to complete a server then more would spend it (and 100 USD is being generous as all your money does not carry from server to server). However 100 USD is NOTHING in evony, which is why it is so discouraging to spend it.

    Evony loves their chests, but 50 to 90% of what they provide is worthless to a big player, so its all fluff.

    The wheel of misfortune has a low chance of winning anything worthwhile. In 16 months of playing evony on 6 servers I won ONE helm of mars hero and won less than 500 cents total. 95% of the time its speakers, resources or (now) mostly useless strategms and that dodgy hero energy things.

    The evony cents is reversed in value to RL money. It should be 100 evony cents to 1 USD. I guarantee more players would spend if it was an equal ratio to RL cents.

    The HH Heroes are extremely buggy and there is a good chance you just waste your cents trying to get them.
    So faced with adversary on all sides and no way to see any benefit from spending money unless you spend a LOT (hundreds of USD) I simply avoid doing so exept for the 5$ deals (still prefer the 250 cents for 5$ than the fluff version as most medals are now useless to me).
    Last edited by scythe; 06-24-2010 at 05:12 AM.
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