Am I free?

[Skirata]

Yes, that is true. The only thing that is diffrent from human and animal, is our brain capacity.

CE? What does that stand for?

CE means Common Era.

[LaoOmologo]

CE means Common Era.

oh, ok.

[Skirata]

oh, ok.

It's like BC/AD. Like this year would be 2010CE.

[LaoOmologo]

It's like BC/AD. Like this year would be 2010CE.

Yeah I got it

[Humility]

Anarchy was the beginning. Why not let it be the end?

Because it would be the end.

I'd agree that freedom would show man as his true evil self. That is why I would support it. The only one that can fix man is man.

So does power. In fact I would not hesitate to say that the rich and the powerful in even our modern society are close to that ideal freedom. Money and politics lifts many of life's restrictions, making many men almost above the law.

Do they seem fixed to you?

@ Conrad
I am not sure what in that is your exact opinion, I've never been extremely skilled in picking out a person's opinion out of a stew of quotes, but it seems you support strong efficient near authoritarian governments.

The primary problem I have with such governments is that it lends itself to extremes, yes one man can be great and with his greatness lead to a golden age, but at the same time one man can take that golden age and turn it into a dark age within a matter of years. Powerful and Efficient governments lends itself to extremes and a golden age is never good enough to make up for a dark age. In addition there is no practical form of meritocracy.

I prefer weak and efficient governments, governments with only a little authority but great power where its authority does lie. It mitigates greatness, but it also mitigates incompetence.

[Skirata]

Because it would be the end.

Everything has an end.

So does power. In fact I would not hesitate to say that the rich and the powerful in even our modern society are close to that ideal freedom. Money and politics lifts many of life's restrictions, making many men almost above the law.
Do they seem fixed to you?

It's a shame only the rich and powerful are the only one's near true freedom then.


Everything is fixed.

[Humility]

Everything has an end.

I would rather the end wait for a while.

It's a shame only the rich and powerful are the only one's near true freedom then.

I would say one could seek power if you desire freedom but to devote yourself to power is fascist.

[Skirata]

I would rather the end wait for a while.

The end chooses when it will come about.

I would say one could seek power if you desire freedom but to devote yourself to power is fascist.

Then to seek freedom is fascist.

[Humility]

The end chooses when it will come about.

Now you are just trying to sound hollywood wise. X)

The end is an effect not a cause, and it requires a cause. The effect can not choose when the cause will be, therefore the end cannot choose when it will be.

Then to seek freedom is fascist.

So it is. That is why I say liberty is better then freedom.

[Skirata]

Now you are just trying to sound hollywood wise. X)

The end is an effect not a cause, and it requires a cause. The effect can not choose when the cause will be, therefore the end cannot choose when it will be.

The end's cause was the beginning.