Playing from a Colonized position

[japanpimp]

Yes, troops are drafted based on cost. 10% of the highest cost troop is drafted. So if you have 100 archers but 10k warriors, then 10% of the warriors will be drafted since that group has the highest resource cost. Basically all the resources used to produce 10k warriors far exceeds the resources used to produce 100 archers. So the highest resource troop is drafted.
And Sow Discord is easy to get around. Just keep 3 junk heros in your feasting hall with 70 or lower loyalty. And when Sow Discord happens, reward your good heros but don't reward the junk ones. They will take the junk ones first. And when they take a junk hero, replace it with another junk hero. Also, send good heros out to garrison in othe players cities. Just send them with 1 scout. Then call them back when you are ready to level them up more.
Problems? Solved.

[Gringo]

I understand how Draft is meant to work I want to know why it doesn't work that way and how to manipulate it.

[japanpimp]

Well, I never knew it did not work the way it was meant to...

[sanford]

Dude, nobody bought adv teleporters. Why do you jump to conclusions? I gave them a process, they followed it. Simple. Again, I design processes for a living. Designing some processes for someone to follow on a game is easy as pie. Allow me to explain the process of building on very specific cords in Age II, it is not rocket science.... Nor does it require being a Evony "pro"
1. Start account.
2. Build city.
3. Teleport city to appropriate state.
4. Get title to Knight (Can be done in 30 minutes in Age II)
5. March troops to desired flat at specific location, cap flat. Build second city on it.
6. Abandon first city. Rebuild first city next door to second city.

Tada! I just use my brain, we all have one.

First off, if a player has an existing evony account, and they do #1 ("Start account"), then they have started a second account, which is against the rules. Even if they never play it after starting it. If they are from another server and they use THE SAME ACCOUNT to create a Lord on your server, then its ok, albeit it extremely cheesy. Evony has a mechanism against this - the Lord on your server should be deleted after a certain amount of inactivity - but it's currently not being run. So you are lucky, for now. Until they start wiping your friends' cities and you have to convince them to log in every now and then to keep it active.

Secondly, there are many disadvantages to being colonized, as a I pointed out in one of your other threads. If you can't see these disadvantages, you don't understand this game.

Thirdly, if someone else takes a 12 and starts drafting from me, I will fight the 12 with all of my Troops. So will the other 99 people in my alliance. These are troops you WILL NOT HAVE, playing colonized. You might be able to have some troops, but your heros will be lower ATK (you can't get XP as easily). Lower ATK means longer build times and more losses in every single fight.

Fourth, just to confirm it, reinforcements from alliance mats present in a Suzerain's city will help him in uprising fights against him.

Fifthly, WAREHOUSES ARE USELESS IN AGE2. I do know that. The thing they protect against - being plundered by other players - has been removed from Age 2 completely. They are useless. (Stockpile - the research - is not useless, dont be confused. You need a warehouse to research stockpile only.)

Sixth - Your statements about porting into enemy territory and taking a 12 are just 100% wrong. You have no idea what you are talking about. I can't even address the points you made they are so far off.


The thing about your post is, it belongs in the DISCUSSION forum, not the Guides forum. You need to improve your knowledge of the game for a few months (years?) before you are qualified to post here. Every single guide you posted has 1-5 GLARING mistakes.

I'm repping you down.

[sanford]

Yes, not being able to draft troops from individual players does mean that I cannot draft "x" troops per day. But the player with the most troops is not the strongest. It's all about the heros. A player with a strong hero can win with a fraction of the troops. So yeah, losing my heros is a problem. And it is something I need to protect against. And if you play smart, "Sow Discord" does not drop loyalty by 30 on any heros you don't want it to nor does it allow the Suzerain to cap my best heros.

Invading enemy territory, setting up camp and building up. Hey, again, it's what I do. And it is what any player needs to do if they want to take an area from a enemy. Thus, we need to find ways to protect troops and heros from drafting and Sow Discord. That way we can build a nice and strong presense deep in enemy territory and eventually take the area.

Woops I forgot to address this nonsense.

Yes, the player with the most troops is the strongest. You're missing the point of the game.

You will never have good heros, that's true, but not because of Sow Discord. You will never have good heros because you can't get XP as fast as a suzerain who can freely attack valleys, freely attack NPC 3/4/5/10, and freely attack other players. The suzerain has the full use of his troops - because he isn't hiding them in embassies all over the map.

So now the Suzerain has More Troops than you, Better Heros than you, More Cities than you, Faster Build Queues than you, and more More Resources than you.

Yeah, being colonized puts you at a big advantage. Awesome guide.

[japanpimp]

First off, if a player has an existing evony account, and they do #1 ("Start account"), then they have started a second account, which is against the rules. Even if they never play it after starting it. If they are from another server and they use THE SAME ACCOUNT to create a Lord on your server, then its ok, albeit it extremely cheesy. Evony has a mechanism against this - the Lord on your server should be deleted after a certain amount of inactivity - but it's currently not being run. So you are lucky, for now. Until they start wiping your friends' cities and you have to convince them to log in every now and then to keep it active.

Secondly, there are many disadvantages to being colonized, as a I pointed out in one of your other threads. If you can't see these disadvantages, you don't understand this game.

Thirdly, if someone else takes a 12 and starts drafting from me, I will fight the 12 with all of my Troops. So will the other 99 people in my alliance. These are troops you WILL NOT HAVE, playing colonized. You might be able to have some troops, but your heros will be lower ATK (you can't get XP as easily). Lower ATK means longer build times and more losses in every single fight.

Fourth, just to confirm it, reinforcements from alliance mats present in a Suzerain's city will help him in uprising fights against him.

Fifthly, WAREHOUSES ARE USELESS IN AGE2. I do know that. The thing they protect against - being plundered by other players - has been removed from Age 2 completely. They are useless. (Stockpile - the research - is not useless, dont be confused. You need a warehouse to research stockpile only.)

Sixth - Your statements about porting into enemy territory and taking a 12 are just 100% wrong. You have no idea what you are talking about. I can't even address the points you made they are so far off.


The thing about your post is, it belongs in the DISCUSSION forum, not the Guides forum. You need to improve your knowledge of the game for a few months (years?) before you are qualified to post here. Every single guide you posted has 1-5 GLARING mistakes.

I'm repping you down.

Well, ok. Feel free to critisize. But if you read this entire thread, some players much more experienced than myself agree that this guide is useful.. and have written far more advanced guides which include many features of my guide. It just goes to show that some advanced players are thinking along the same line of thought that I am. Not all, but some. But it is nice to have different opinions and feedback. If everyone thought the same way then there would be no need for discussions. Now, if you have a better guide, then feel free to write it so we can all learn.

[japanpimp]

Woops I forgot to address this nonsense.

Yes, the player with the most troops is the strongest. You're missing the point of the game.

You will never have good heros, that's true, but not because of Sow Discord. You will never have good heros because you can't get XP as fast as a suzerain who can freely attack valleys, freely attack NPC 3/4/5/10, and freely attack other players. The suzerain has the full use of his troops - because he isn't hiding them in embassies all over the map.

So now the Suzerain has More Troops than you, Better Heros than you, More Cities than you, Faster Build Queues than you, and more More Resources than you.

Yeah, being colonized puts you at a big advantage. Awesome guide.

In Age II heros have limits. So does food and other things. "Advanced" players are usually the ones who paid money into the Age II when it first went live in order to get a head start on the rest. But eventually, others will catch up. Regardless if they are colonized or not. Sure, I cannot move my troops as freely as a player who is not colonized. I need to recall them which takes 2 minutes, send them out to attack stuff for a few hours then send them back. It just means that I will need a little more time to build my heros up. But I can indeed build up my heros to the max level and cap some HH's and level them up too.
It is not just abotu troop numbers, it is about the Heros. If I have a level 150 HH with 150 leadership and 400+ attack... that makes my 100k warriors many many many times more powerful than a player that only has a level 5 hero with 46 attack. That player would need 3x or more troops than me just to be even. And as the game states in the Workshop 'High level heros will make your army pratically invincible'.