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    How random is this random number genorator?

    This question should answer itself, and im sure the mod's will say what they have said before about this.

    Me and a friend started playing evony around the same time, difference is he has spent some money on this game, a $30 autocents near the start but then spent nothing for months..until recently. Anyway its to long ago to even remember what he used to get on the wheel when he first started spending (one thing to note is he has over 30 On wars and has never bought one..i have won a total of about 5 over the time ive been playing)

    He saves up his amulets, spining anywhere from 10-25 at a time and gets nothing of much use - mostly resources - this is in the months that he hasnt spent any money on this game. Then the other day he decides to spend $30 and he has had no end of "good luck" from the random number genorater, winning extremly usefull items every few spins, yeah he still wins the 200k res but is winning better items much more regulary - for instance 10 ivory horn, 5 on war, 2 senior medal boxes (in a row) and they were all within maybe 10 spins over 2 days.

    Like i said before im sure this thread will get shot down again by a mod claiming its completly random, but i have to say from recent events that people who spend money on the game are much more likely to win something good than those who dont spend any.

    Could a mod maybe list the "odds" of winning different items on the wheel? as if it was truely random far more people would win the "more desirable" prize that is at the top of the wheel (before you say, i know the image of the wheel is 'window dressing' and doesnt mean anything, but it has to be linked in some way to the RNG as how else would it know to put the prize your winning as an image on there in the first place?)

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    Moderators don't have anything to do with the game. They moderate the forums only.

    As for posting the odds from the wheel, I'm sorry but that won't happen. But to answer your question, what you see is a coincidence. We don't have one set of odds for F2P players and a "better" set for those who spend.

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    I haven't ever spent anything on this game and I don't do too badly. I think I won resources only once in the last month. I have even hit 1000 cents before.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alusair View Post
    If you don't care enough to make yourself understandable, don't be surprised if others don't care enough to try to figure out what you're trying to tell them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyBunny View Post
    As for posting the odds from the wheel, I'm sorry but that won't happen.
    This statement would suggest that it IS NOT random, if it were wouldnt the odd's be the same for every item?

    I guess i should of used the word dev instead of mod, my forum lingo isnt up to scratch, sorry lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by TCWNME View Post
    I haven't ever spent anything on this game and I don't do too badly. I think I won resources only once in the last month. I have even hit 1000 cents before.
    Lucky you lol.

    I think my point is that it is not as random as they would make us believe (see above!)

    Maybe people who spend money on the game dont have a better chance of winning better items, but from foxy's reply above, the fact that the odd's for winning every item is not the same surely proves that you have less chance of winning 1k cents than you do 200k food?

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    Wow. People just don't understand variance.

    The luck factor is huge, anything can happen. You can flip a coin 100 times and it can be heads 100 times. This does not mean the coin is rigged. With millions and millions of Evony players spinning the wheel, there's gonna be hot streaks and cold streaks for people inevitably. Thinking that the wheel is not random when you're on either one of those streaks, only means you have no clue what 'random' truely means.

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    This is for Age I only:



    You have a 1.73% chance of winning the Jackpot.

    Jackpot Rewards:

    Penicillin
    Ritual of Pact
    War Ensign (15)
    Speaker (200)
    Senior Medal Box
    Medium Medal Box
    Adv. City Teleporter
    Adv. Tax Policy
    Ivory Horn (10)
    Speech Text (8)
    Master Guidelines (10)
    Mechanics Battalion
    Napolean?s Diary (10)
    On War (5)
    Holy Water (50)
    Holy Helm of Mars
    1000 Game Cents
    New ID 0.276%
    0.172%
    0.155%
    0.121%
    0.121%
    0.121%
    0.103%
    0.103%
    0.086%
    0.086%
    0.069%
    0.069%
    0.052%
    0.052%
    0.052%
    0.034%
    0.034%
    0.017%
    You have a 10.35% chance of winning a Premium reward.

    Premium Rewards:

    Nation Medal
    Michelangelo?s Script
    Master Guidelines
    On War
    Justice Medal
    Ultimate Guidelines
    Junior Medal Box
    Holy Water (5 Pieces Package)
    Ultra Corselet
    Speech Text
    Speaker (100 Pieces Package)
    100 Game Cents
    Veteran Battalion
    Plate Helm of Lancelot
    Ivory Horn
    300 Game Cents 1.209%
    1.034%
    0.862%
    0.828%
    0.793%
    0.690%
    0.690%
    0.690%
    0.586%
    0.552%
    0.517%
    0.517%
    0.448%
    0.379%
    0.310%
    0.241%
    You have a 29.31% chance of winning a Respectable reward.

    Respectable Rewards:

    Dynamite
    Holy Water
    Napolean?s Diary
    Archimedes? Note
    30 Game Cents
    Adv. Quarrying Tools
    Iron Rake
    Senior Battalion
    Blast Furnace
    War Ensign
    Intermediate Guidelines
    Tax Policy
    Senior Guidelines
    Honor Medal
    Speaker (10 Pieces Package)
    Chain Helm of Beowulf
    Truce Agreement
    Wisdom Medal
    Courage Medal
    Epitome of Military Science
    Double Saw
    Freedom Medal
    Civil Code
    City Teleporter
    50 Game Cents 1.759%
    1.685%
    1.612%
    1.539%
    1.466%
    1.392%
    1.392%
    1.392%
    1.392%
    1.319%
    1.319%
    1.246%
    1.172%
    1.172%
    1.099%
    1.099%
    1.026%
    0.953%
    0.953%
    0.806%
    0.806%
    0.733%
    0.733%
    0.659%
    0.586%
    You have a 58.62% chance of winning a Regular reward.

    Regular Rewards:

    Junior Battalion
    20k Food
    40k Iron
    40k Food
    20k Iron
    Hero Hunting
    Beginner Guidelines
    20k Lumber
    15k Gold
    Merchant Fleet
    20k Stone
    40k Stone
    Anabasis
    Leather Helm of Robinhood
    30k Gold
    Speaker
    40k Lumber
    Quarrying Tools
    Plowshares
    Primary Guidelines
    Arch Saw
    10 Game Cents
    Blower
    Cross Medal
    National Flag
    Rose Medal
    Lion Medal
    Corselet
    War Horn 3.041%
    2.931%
    2.894%
    2.748%
    2.491%
    2.455%
    2.455%
    2.418%
    2.381%
    2.345%
    2.308%
    2.272%
    2.235%
    2.198%
    2.162%
    2.052%
    2.015%
    1.978%
    1.905%
    1.795%
    1.722%
    1.612%
    1.575%
    1.282%
    1.136%
    1.136%
    1.099%
    1.026%
    0.953%

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    OK, it isn't truly random, but we've never claimed it was. Your odds of winning resources or speakers are MUCH higher than your odds of winning a Holy Helm of Mars or a Mech battalion or 1000 cents. The wheel itself that you see is a pretty graphic, although not truly representative of your odds. It has, what? 30 spots or so? Your odds of winning something from it are not 1/30.

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    Yeah, random isn't the right word (or just confusing). The odds per item are set, then it's just chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pialpha View Post
    I remember something from a while ago....let me find it.....

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    Explains a little bit...But its old.
    please delete this post, otherwise the thread will be closed

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    Speakers? If only I was so lucky.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alusair View Post
    If you don't care enough to make yourself understandable, don't be surprised if others don't care enough to try to figure out what you're trying to tell them.

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