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    Default A Koran is fine too

    Why do you think Christians, Jews, and Muslims fight all the time when it is obvious that they all 3 worship the same deity. Somewhere along the line God trolled everyone and it shows to me that "man"(or woman) is clearly doing it wrong.

    What I would like to get out of this? Explain how all three of those religions with similar prophets and belief systems have been so misconstrued and turned upside down by the bigotry/ignorance of the respective cultures involved.


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    It is merely the vulgarity and baseness of humanity that distorts the original and central teachings of these three religions. Man is naturally vulgar and naturally ignorant in which every religion or philosophical tradition/school becomes poisoned by the primal instincts and putrid desires of the human species. In addition, each religious tradition is entirely placed within its respective culture. The concepts of Christendom existed during the Carolingian Empire of Charlemagne who desired to expand Carolingian hegemony throughout Europe as well as the Christian faith often through aggression, subjugation and coercion and the Holy Roman Emperor Otto III desired to unite the Romano-Germanic Empire with the Eastern Romans of the Byzantine Empire to form a newly united Roman Empire under the Christian faith which signified a desire for global hegemony in both the temporal/secular sphere and the ecclesiastical/religious sphere. In such a regard, the term cultural hubris surely applies.

    In terms of my religious faith and belief system, I am a Neoplatonist in the tradition of the Italian Renaissance as I seek to amalgamate or to fuse together the different and seemingly disparate philosophical strands of Aristotelianism and Stoicism with the original teachings of Plato. I greatly admire the works and teachings of Plato of Athens, Iamblichus, Plotinus, Plutarch of Athens and the Neoplatonists of the Italian Renaissance such as Lorenzo de Medici Il Magnifico and Mirandola.
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    Conrad send me somewhere to read up on the info you are speaking of because I really know very little of Hellenistic Paganism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesterus View Post
    Why do you think Christians, Jews, and Muslims fight all the time when it is obvious that they all 3 worship the same deity. Somewhere along the line God trolled everyone and it shows to me that "man"(or woman) is clearly doing it wrong.

    What I would like to get out of this? Explain how all three of those religions with similar prophets and belief systems have been so misconstrued and turned upside down by the bigotry/ignorance of the respective cultures involved.


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    Although they have things in common, it's their different interpretations of things which cause conflict. For example, the Jews believe that Jesus was not the Messiah (and that the Messiah has yet to come), Christians do, and Muslims believe that although Jesus wasn't the Messiah, he was one of Allah's prophets who are specific individuals created by God to spread His religion.

    Believing each other's interpretations of these overlapping belief, and some completely different incompatible beliefs resulted in things like Crusade and Jihad so as to defeat the heathens and bring the true religion to them through force of arms. The Jews, having been expelled from Israel thousands of years ago however where forced to spread out across Europe without their own homeland and were therefore easy to prosecute, and the perfect scapegoat for any nation's problems, fully utilised by Hitler's National So******t regime from 1933-1945. The Germans were supposedly "stabbed in the back" after World War 1. Who did they blame? Jews, So******ts and Capitalists. It was easy to shift the blame on to another party and it therefore incited strong nationalism throughout Germany, that their cause was justified and that all other inferior races should be dealt with in the harshest manner possible, having been the root of the problem of why Germany was defeated (supposedly).

    Final summation, Christianity and Islam are "missionary" religions where they openly seek to convert non-believers (contrary to Judaism which discourages conversion unless you are willing to fully take on the religion without leaving it), and this just happened to "require" force throughout history, at the expense of thousands of lives of which in such a holy event would supposedly be atoned of their sins by God/Allah if slain.

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    I didnt think you could convert to Judaism

    I was under the impression that they believe they are God's Chosen people and that you have to be born into it

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    Nope, you can convert to it same as any other religion. They have classes and everything!

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    I believe that religion is something invented by man to comfort him from the fear of the unknown.

    It's something that's not worth dying, or killing others for. The harmony of the human race does not come second to your beliefs, or your devotion to something.

    That is my opinion on this matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrotherhoodUK View Post
    I believe that religion is something invented by man to comfort him from the fear of the unknown.

    It's something that's not worth dying, or killing others for. The harmony of the human race does not come second to your beliefs, or your devotion to something.

    That is my opinion on this matter.
    I agree. You could look at it evolutionarily, too. Go back, back, back, back... No those are definitely monkeys, too far. Forward, STOP!

    Here we have man just barely becoming sentient. He now realizes that he will eventually die, no matter what he does to try to prevent it. He might as well not bother living. How is this problem solved? Interestingly enough, a little bit of insanity on someone's part becomes a survival trait: This person believes that there is a kind of immortality after death. Now, there is a reason to live, pass on genes, and do whatever it takes to ensure the survival of the species in a wholesome Darwinian manner. This predilection toward religion actually becomes encoded in our genes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BrotherhoodUK View Post
    I believe that religion is something invented by man to comfort him from the fear of the unknown.

    It's something that's not worth dying, or killing others for. The harmony of the human race does not come second to your beliefs, or your devotion to something.

    That is my opinion on this matter.
    Some people see there religion as something they live there life by, there morals, values, and honour. Then there is those who use religion for political gain.

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    Religion started as ancestor worship humans evolved and cared for their deceased and the burial process started the thought train that people should go somewhere when they die and religion was born

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