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Thread: Was it Justified to initiate World War II over the Polish Crisis?

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    A week before the invasion of Poland, Germany and Russian signed a pact agreeing not only not to attack each other or to interfere if one was attacked, but dividing up huge chunks of Europe between the two countries. It was called the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact.

    Curiously enough, the whole week following the signing of this pact was witness to a series of incidents, supposedly done by the Polish, against ethnic Germans and was declared by the Germans to be a systematic attempt at ethnic cleansing.

    The incident at the radio station you speak of was testified to at length during the Nuremburg trials after the war. The testimony was delivered by the soldier who had been the leader of a group of Germans sent to that radio station. The day before, they had arrested a Polish man and they brought him with them to the radio station. All were dressed in Polish uniforms. At the station, they murdered the prisoner by lethal injection then shot him to make him look as though he died in the attack. They broadcast an anti-German message and then left.

    Other incidents were also staged throughout Poland, making it look as though the Poles were openly attacking their German residents. This gave Germany the excuse it needed to drive in and "protect" their people. The reason it sparked declarations of war had to do with a few things.

    1) There were numerous reliable reports that Polish soldier who died in the radio station attack had been taken into custody by the Germans the day before. So how did he appear there? Germany had no answer except silence.
    2) The same sort of incidents against Germans were being repeated on the eastern side of the country, only these were against Russians. Amazingly, Russian rolled its own army onto foreign soil to "rescue and protect" their own people at the same time Germany did from the other end.
    3) The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was not exactly secret. It was meant to be so, but archives released in later years showed that both British MI6 and the CIA had knowledge of the pact through their intelligence sources within the Reich. It is presumed, because of the status of espionage at the time, that the French and others had access to the same information.

    I believe that France saw the writing on the wall and knew that they were next in line for this treatment if they didn't act first. Other countries fell in line after various other incidents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyBunny View Post
    A week before the invasion of Poland, Germany and Russian signed a pact agreeing not only not to attack each other or to interfere if one was attacked, but dividing up huge chunks of Europe between the two countries. It was called the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact.

    Curiously enough, the whole week following the signing of this pact was witness to a series of incidents, supposedly done by the Polish, against ethnic Germans and was declared by the Germans to be a systematic attempt at ethnic cleansing.

    The incident at the radio station you speak of was testified to at length during the Nuremburg trials after the war. The testimony was delivered by the soldier who had been the leader of a group of Germans sent to that radio station. The day before, they had arrested a Polish man and they brought him with them to the radio station. All were dressed in Polish uniforms. At the station, they murdered the prisoner by lethal injection then shot him to make him look as though he died in the attack. They broadcast an anti-German message and then left.

    Other incidents were also staged throughout Poland, making it look as though the Poles were openly attacking their German residents. This gave Germany the excuse it needed to drive in and "protect" their people. The reason it sparked declarations of war had to do with a few things.

    1) There were numerous reliable reports that Polish soldier who died in the radio station attack had been taken into custody by the Germans the day before. So how did he appear there? Germany had no answer except silence.
    2) The same sort of incidents against Germans were being repeated on the eastern side of the country, only these were against Russians. Amazingly, Russian rolled its own army onto foreign soil to "rescue and protect" their own people at the same time Germany did from the other end.
    3) The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was not exactly secret. It was meant to be so, but archives released in later years showed that both British MI6 and the CIA had knowledge of the pact through their intelligence sources within the Reich. It is presumed, because of the status of espionage at the time, that the French and others had access to the same information.

    I believe that France saw the writing on the wall and knew that they were next in line for this treatment if they didn't act first. Other countries fell in line after various other incidents.
    That is so true Foxy. Both the German and Russian divided Poland. However some truth were told but not all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digger Walters View Post
    I have read that the attack on the German radio station was staged yes staged to give him a reason to attack the Poles
    I have heard of that, but that was NOT the stuff I meant. The Germans in East Prussia was given hostile actions from the Poles BEFORE HITLER GOT THE POWER!! Ok? That is the stuff I am trying to explain. If you can find a way that is staged, or a lie, I'd like to hear it. (THIS IS READ FROM MULTIPLE SITES AND BOOKS, usually banned books though)
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaoOmologo View Post
    I have heard of that, but that was NOT the stuff I meant. The Germans in East Prussia was given hostile actions from the Poles BEFORE HITLER GOT THE POWER!! Ok? That is the stuff I am trying to explain. If you can find a way that is staged, or a lie, I'd like to hear it. (THIS IS READ FROM MULTIPLE SITES AND BOOKS, usually banned books though)
    East Prussia was part of Germany in during world war 1. Poland seek their country afterward and the polish get part of germany. There were always fighting between the poles and germans over land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KwokYuen View Post
    East Prussia was part of Germany in during world war 1. Poland seek their country afterward and the polish get part of germany. There were always fighting between the poles and germans over land.
    ... Yes I know that. I mean the German people living in that region.
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