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    Default My Favourite Way to conquering a level10

    DISCLAIMER: I make no claims that this is the Best way, Right way, or even a Good way to take out a level 10 NPC. This is simply a strategy I used and that worked well for me with the heroes, techs, and troops that I had available.


    Level 10 Conquer-

    Recommend using War Horn, Corselet, and Penicillin if you have them available to help minimize your losses and beef up your troops.

    I also recommend at least 2 Heroes with an attack of at least 160 or higher for the spearhead. The hero attack doesn't matter quite as much for the remaining loyalty waves, but the higher it is, the fewer losses you will take.

    The shorter distance you have to travel the better. If you have it available, take over a level 10 flat right beside the city you will be attacking from. Build a new city and abandon it to create your Level 10 NPC. If you are unable to do this then you may need to make adjustments to the examples I will be posting here.

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    Most of what I've been finding about level 10 attacks say that your spearhead wave (first wave) should look something like this:

    96 000 Archer
    2 000 warrior
    2 000 worker

    And result in a loss of anywhere from 15 000 - 70 000 archers, or on occasion even the loss of the entire wave.
    this would be mainly because of the low level hero I had at the time.
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    Seems pretty expensive in my opinion. Even 15 000 archers is more than I want to see lost in a single wave. So I decided to try something else and see what kind of results I would have.

    I decided to use a 2 part spearhead. (two attacks within a few seconds of each other)
    This is how I set it up:

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    Wave 1

    95 000 Warrior
    1000 worker
    1000 warrior
    1000 pike
    1000 scout
    1000 sword

    Which resulted in a complete loss of the wave, but fairly substantial clearing of the defenses / troops.


    Wave 2

    89 000 Archer
    3 500 scouts
    1 000 warrior
    1 000 pike
    2 500 ballista
    2 000 transport
    Which resulted in a victory with only 5129 archers lost and of course the rainbow / layer troops.

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    Compared to the recommended spearhead of 95 000 archers, this seems to have cut the archer loss by about half.
    Granted, I took a 95 000 warrior loss, but warriors are much less expensive to make both in time and resource cost, which I felt at least for myself was acceptable.


    About 15 seconds behind the spearhead ( I allowed a little extra time for the initial 2 attacks to hit to ensure they would land first) came the loyalty waves. My loyalty waves were sent in 2 different configurations. The first wave of each group of attacks was as follows:

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    Loyalty wave 1

    20 000 Archer
    10000 Warrior

    This first wave of each loyalty attack group cleared any respawns with few losses. Most often, a couple hundred archer and warrior.

    20 000 Warrior
    1000 Archer


    This second wave I sent in quick succession behind the first loyalty wave. losses where minimal between the 50 - 100 range.
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    Once the rotation of the loyalty waves got going, the losses became fewer and fewer with each attack until there were almost no losses at all.


    In the end, once I took the city, I lost less than 20 000 total archers.
    I didn't keep track of the exact numbers of all the troops. My highest losses were my warriors, but as I menitoned before, they are much cheaper and faster to replace than archers. And if you are trying to get your archers built up, and still want to get that Queen quest done, a similar method to this may be what you are looking for.
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    I think of this as more of a guide for players with low level attack heros.

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    That is just horrible horrible layering. Use this:

    96K archers
    2K warriors
    2K workers

    Really, you cannot make a guide like this and advice people to use the layering you're suggesting. If you look around for a bit on the forum, you'd know that 2K warriors/workers is about the only correct layering.

    Edit: OMG your loyalty wave... please don't use that!

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    What Woldere said + use a hero with 85+ leadership.

    If you don't have that, get someone else to make the spearhead for you.

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    Well I suppose I did write this guide up on evolliance a while back,

    I'l edit it accordingly, but then again I guess it might as well be taken down.

    But as the title suggests it was my favorite way to take them down and also in the disclaimer I say it is not better than many of the other ones out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woldere View Post
    That is just horrible horrible layering. Use this:

    96K archers
    2K warriors
    2K workers

    Really, you cannot make a guide like this and advice people to use the layering you're suggesting. If you look around for a bit on the forum, you'd know that 2K warriors/workers is about the only correct layering.

    Edit: OMG your loyalty wave... please don't use that!
    no scouts ont he layer? im about to try a 10 soon (already did a 9)

    What do u recomend is the best layer for a npc8< i think i can do it better

    thanks

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    Scouts will bring down archer losses, but it's not really worth it, resource and barrack time wise.

    LVL8s farm with warriors only.

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    Haha, I get the wart thing in your signature

    Pretaining to the guide, you should be able to clear a lv 10 NPC easily with your first wave. All you need is a 100 leadership hero and around 200 attack. I like to send a wave like this

    92k Archers
    4k Scouts
    2k Warriors
    2k Workers

    For farming
    92k Archers
    2k scouts
    2k Warriors
    2k Workers.

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    With a non-historical hero, you will usually be a bit underpowered. Therefor, you need all the archers you can get. I strongly advice against layering with scouts when your hero is not very strong.

    All scouts do is take trap damage at 5.2K range, they don't layer. You need max archers to kill the warriors before they touch your archers. When the warriors don't touch your archers anymore, you want maximum archer power to get the number of rounds down to take less trap damage. Next to that, barracktime-wise, scouts don't save enough archers for it to be worth it. So sending scouts along is wrong in 2 ways in this case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woldere View Post
    With a non-historical hero, you will usually be a bit underpowered. Therefor, you need all the archers you can get. I strongly advice against layering with scouts when your hero is not very strong.

    All scouts do is take trap damage at 5.2K range, they don't layer. You need max archers to kill the warriors before they touch your archers. Next to that, barracktime-wise, scouts don't save enough archers for it to be worth it. So sending scouts along is wrong in 2 ways in this case.
    I've never had problems with the Warriors, so I wouldn't know Scouts saves me 1-2k Archers every time I send them from the traps, so personally I like scouts more, but that's just me.

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