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    Okay let me break it down simply for you and others DeathKnight.

    All of the quote you pasted from Foxy Bunny is mostly true, i am not really debating that point. What i am debating, or rather showing, is solid proof in nice and easy viewable screen shots of how Evony's implementation of a 'fix' is going to cause more damage than do any good.

    To further simplify it:

    At maintenance Evony cleans 10% of NPC's and dummy accounts (As in, accounts started up to fill a flat for short period of time).

    Now say 1 player creates 10 dummies in there state to fill up potential teleport invasion flats. So 16 people create 160 dummy accounts.

    Next day maintenance happens again, clears another 10% npcs from the server and there dummys. now you have the 10 dummys from yesterday and more npcs removed.

    So now you will find 2 people making dummys to fill those invasions flats per state, say 2 people now creating 8 each making 16 per state and 256 per server.

    Im sure you can put the rest of the jigsaw together - the rate of growth for Dummy accounts is exponential and Evony will find more people quitting.

    Also in response to FoxyBunnys quote you pasted.

    No food equals no troops no strategy. If you make instant catapults 1,526 attack, which is huge exp, how do you expect anyone to achieve that with hitting the odd lvl10npc

    Hiding behind an easily captured npc isn't really hiding, now having a ring of dummy accounts around me is hiding that WILL cause 4 hours of attacks as nobody can get close.

    Clear the npcs by all means, get new players in by all means to have no chance against people playing for over a year by all means.

    How can one hardware address be enabled to create as many accounts as they want. The idea was solid enough, your solution was poorly thought out and implemented.

    Your evony team is small compared to the amount of players. Makes the most basic sense to ask the playing community for some ideas on your future changes, as 1,000 different viewpoints/angles are better than 5.

    On a side note, to further concrete what i say if anyone still has further doubts, Bones is still here creating dummy accounts and this is the first sign, the tip of the iceberg - starting to surround castles with accounts that cant be interacted with thus creating FoxyBunnys 2nd solution in having 4 hour attacks. Takes maybe 1 day of side playing to get a dummy account up to a prestige point where it doesn't clear in a maintenance

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    You DO realize that posting public accusations, no matter who blatantly obvious they may be, is against the rules right? Also, posting coords is also against the rules.

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    As we talked in game i was un ware of this fact and will re-tweek my pictures. The reason i included co-ords was to show how close he was to his city and the full extent of what was happening and i edited as little as possible for this reason.

    My apologies for this error

    On the Public accusation note. After all these posts people took time out to post with feedback and no response from Evony on this issue, my next logical step was to provide solid proof that this is going on which backs up what i say and provides a realistic chance to see the impact/damage this will do in the foreseeable future
    Last edited by Magaw; 07-27-2010 at 11:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D34thk1ght View Post
    All of the above is true, so if you dont like it go play "Farmville" or somthing.
    no one said it wasnt true, we are upset about the whole thing about no warning b4 it happend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magaw View Post

    No food equals no troops no strategy.
    exactly,and someone 'hiding' behind a field of npc's, the source of the food they use to feed troops and res they use to build more, is easy to get in to. Take one of their 10's and attack out of it, take a 5 and port it out or defend it long enough to upgrade the RS and FH so you can attack out of it, that is why it is called a strategy game, you have to think a little before you attack. Random porting around into newly open areas just dumbs down the game for everyone, it is as bad as all of the scout bombing no skill noobs playing the game. Every game does not need an easy button for those to lazy to try. The game was easy enough as it was before, this is just dumbing it down and making it easy for those who depend on getting there hands held to cross the street.

    They have now made a new problem that is 10 fold what the old problem(that was not a problem at all) was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp175 View Post
    exactly,and someone 'hiding' behind a field of npc's, the source of the food they use to feed troops and res they use to build more, is easy to get in to. Take one of their 10's and attack out of it, take a 5 and port it out or defend it long enough to upgrade the RS and FH so you can attack out of it, that is why it is called a strategy game, you have to think a little before you attack. Random porting around into newly open areas just dumbs down the game for everyone, it is as bad as all of the scout bombing no skill noobs playing the game. Every game does not need an easy button for those to lazy to try. The game was easy enough as it was before, this is just dumbing it down and making it easy for those who depend on getting there hands held to cross the street.

    They have now made a new problem that is 10 fold what the old problem(that was not a problem at all) was.
    i use this stratagy, its not hard to take a lvl 10 1 mile from someone within 5 mins, and then have a couple extra attacks heading at it so you can attack form in immediatly they never know what hit them every time................it only takes 40-41 attacks to cap a 10 within a few mins with 5 cities anyone can set up a camp time to do this................even from 100+ miles away
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    Quote Originally Posted by BertandErine View Post
    i use this stratagy, its not hard to take a lvl 10 1 mile from someone within 5 mins, and then have a couple extra attacks heading at it so you can attack form in immediatly they never know what hit them every time................it only takes 40-41 attacks to cap a 10 within a few mins with 5 cities anyone can set up a camp time to do this................even from 100+ miles away
    i know, that is what makes it a "strategy" game, it does not need to be dumbed down for those that can not come up with a strategy, they did that with facebook evony lite. All age 1 needs is a few bug fixes and some moderation.

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    What I don't understand is, if the developers did not intend for players to create vast armies, why didn't they create either (a) an absolute cap on army size, or (b) an attrition rate that kicks in after the army exceeds a certain size and gradually reduces it to what they consider reasonable? They could then create various items that would allow players to temporarily get around these limitations, they'd make more money from selling them, nobody would need the enormous NPC fields, the game would be more fair...what's not to like?

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    I have had a post removed twice from this specific topic - seemingly for telling people how to break the rules (not at all for pointing out the continual abuse that servers are getting from dummy accounts) while people expand there uses.

    Since they are limiting what i can/cant say - even when explaining a problem - i will think on this and see if i can re-word/breakdown what is happening so maybe someone from Evony, or who has some power in development to bring about a change for better fairer game play.

    Constructive criticism should never be dismissed under the guise of 'breaking' forum rules

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    Despite being deleted, moderators/reps will still be able to see it. There is no need to reword it.

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