Level 12 HC - Archer Trade Fire

[Satan]

This is really about understanding the combat engine in general. So you need to start with the threads on this forum that explain how the combat engine works. Honestly, I don't think very many people understand the combat engine at all, despite the fact that the relevant threads are perfectly visible on page 1 of this forum for anyone to read.

Archer tradefire is a concept that can only properly be understood once you got the rest of the basics down in the combat system.

It takes a while to learn everything about combat mechanics. Even the most advanced combat players make mistakes in their calculations, in their assumptions. Ex. Darbrady has in his guide that intelligence does nothing in battle, but now we know it plays a HUGE role in battle.

Yeah but im not really looking to learn all the advanced stuff just what i need to know for a lvl 12 you know?

I can pretty much tell you what you need as long as I have the necessary stats.

[0Spawn0]

Yeah but im not really looking to learn all the advanced stuff just what i need to know for a lvl 12 you know?

Send 2k Swordsmen // 2k Pikemen // 96k Archers ( 121k With War Ensign){152K With HC12} Against Pikemen//Ram//Cav Combo HC

That will do decent damage on all phase of attack on a HC12, it may Not give the lowest losses compared to other methods, but it is the most simplistic method, all you have to do is send enough waves to break it, even with Lv100 Heroes with only 160 Attack after 7 waves you will break it.

[Tinman123]

Yeah but im not really looking to learn all the advanced stuff just what i need to know for a lvl 12 you know?

so what you mean is you want someone to tell you wat to send out and when to send it? cuase not really learning hwo it works its a crash and burn especially if you want to try for 14s

[Aildiin]

To achieve trade-fire with opposing Archers you must 2-shot or 1-shot the opposing Cavs.

That is uncorrect.

There are a lot more things involved in getting trade fire.
Like :
- what are you attaquing ? ( pikes ?, swords ?).
- what are you layering your attack with ?

And anyway you will never reach tradefire if you 2-shots the cavs.....

[Satan]

That is uncorrect.

There are a lot more things involved in getting trade fire.
Like :
- what are you attaquing ? ( pikes ?, swords ?).
- what are you layering your attack with ?

And anyway you will never reach tradefire if you 2-shots the cavs.....

uncorrect...

But you are correct and i am incorrect.. I had 3-shot before, but i edited it for some odd reason.. gotta stop drinking and paying Evony

[b2ryan]

uncorrect...

But you are correct and i am incorrect.. I had 3-shot before, but i edited it for some odd reason.. gotta stop drinking and paying Evony

He did have 3 shot i asked about 2 shot which is probably the reason for the edit.

My Burchard von whatever is level 81 right now with 181 ldrship 260attack and 70 intel. I have 7 other HH with 140 leadership and roughly 120-200 attack on them. I dont have a lvl 12rally but I have 2 lvl 10 rally spots within 1.4miles of the lvl 12HC I want to take. I only have 300k arch and 300k war as of right now but in a few days (maybe a week) i should have enough.

[Satan]

He did have 3 shot i asked about 2 shot which is probably the reason for the edit.

My Burchard von whatever is level 81 right now with 181 ldrship 260attack and 70 intel. I have 7 other HH with 140 leadership and roughly 120-200 attack on them. I dont have a lvl 12rally but I have 2 lvl 10 rally spots within 1.4miles of the lvl 12HC I want to take. I only have 300k arch and 300k war as of right now but in a few days (maybe a week) i should have enough.

With 200 attack heroes your going to need around 700k Archers just to break it.

[b2ryan]

I'm thinking about just spamming 2k wars until i get rid of the traps and then sending 100k wars to get the cavs down to about 5-20k, then i shoudl be able to 1 shot them with 120k arch and my Burchard hero.

If I do it that way, what is better, cavs and pikes or cavs and swords? It seems like cavs/swords/rams is the best combo to attack against?

[Satan]

I'm thinking about just spamming 2k wars until i get rid of the traps and then sending 100k wars to get the cavs down to about 5-20k, then i shoudl be able to 1 shot them with 120k arch and my Burchard hero.

If I do it that way, what is better, cavs and pikes or cavs and swords? It seems like cavs/swords/rams is the best combo to attack against?

You will not be able to 1-shot them if you send 1 wave of 100k Warriors. Send that wave still, but from there you will just 3-shot them, and then you take out Archers right after that. From there it is just brute force.

[b2ryan]

You will not be able to 1-shot them if you send 1 wave of 100k Warriors. Send that wave still, but from there you will just 3-shot them, and then you take out Archers right after that. From there it is just brute force.

if i send 2 waves of 100k wars will i be able to 1 shot them? I ask because I would rather be safe and lose an extra 100k wars than lose an extra 100k archers. If i get them down to 10k cavs i know i can 1 shot them (right?) but if i 3 shot them t here is a risk of 2 or 4 shotting them correct? =/