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  1. #21

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    Quote Originally Posted by OptPrime View Post
    If a person is willing to leave thier alliance cause they got beat on, i definately wouldnt want them to come to my alliance. What happens when someone else comes knocking on thier door again to "Join or die." If they were willing to trade one alliance, there would be no hesitation to betray you.

    That's not always true. I was in an alliance being hit in a state that we were losing ground to the reds day by day. I eventually joined a red alliance because my alliance was not able to muster the power it needed to fight off the invaders. I discussed it with my host and he understood. Now we are all part of that "family" and fight proudly by their side.

    Lady Amikee
    Retired-Just Observing Now

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    We're just having fun...
    Last edited by Ramos33; 08-03-2010 at 09:03 AM.
    <1:4>[Ramos33]: Cherries are freakin gross.
    <1:5>[Cresthaven]: well Ramos, you see these cherries have been soaking in bourbon and are actually quite tastey
    <1:6>[Ramos33]: Thats....interesting. I'm gonna go soak some cherries in chocolate milk and hope for the same result.

  3. #23
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    My alliance currently has the merge or die option and at this point in time they can carry on with it I play on ss49 and we have been told by #1 alliance that we either merge with their brother alliance or we die.
    We have already lost a couple of players due to these tactics but most are remaining and will not merge because of these tactics.
    My own personal point of view is eventually they will take my cities down to one and they cant do much else to me at which point I will quit and eventually become inactive which will just add to the problem most are complaing about, no space because of all the inactives.
    One thing for sure I will never join them or their party alliances I hate bullies at the best of times and the sad thing is all that all the decent player with any sense of decency and honour have left the game and all we have left is the bullying thugs, when 5 guys totalling 100 mil pres zero in on a player with 1 mil pres what chance do they stand? at least my sense of decency and fair play will remain intact only two people in my life tell me what to do if reasonable and thats my parents.
    Eventually all servers will be merged because of these actions and as someone so rightly said there will be one sad guy and his alts with nothing left to play for.
    Maybe just a sign of the times and where Evony age1 is headed?
    Last edited by Rosiemo; 08-08-2010 at 04:57 AM.

  4. #24

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    I don't care for the "join or die" mentality of play either. There is always the option to port your city(s) if you want. The $5 specials Evony offers is a cheap and easy way of getting teleports for just this occasion (while supporting the maintenance of the servers...nothing is really free). There are players who think zeroing players is a show of power, I think it's a show of arrogance.

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    Any diplomat who knows what they are doing can unpick the seams when a multialliance group based on the "join or die" principle declares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boleslav View Post
    Any diplomat who knows what they are doing can unpick the seams when a multialliance group based on the "join or die" principle declares.
    I take it your not a player then? lol
    When the #1 now #3 declares on an alliance ranked in the 40's and then uses another alliance with all their alts as well as their own alliance to beat down that alliance where does diplomacy help? If an alliance that high is determined to wipe out an alliance that low how can talking help?
    What methods would you employ to solve that?

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    Wow, s83 has really changed since Immortal left... (btw, we're having a great time on s133, thanks for asking). Anyway, JoD. Don't like it, have never done it myself and, obviously, nobody ever said that to any of us before we left.

    Being in a good alliance is what makes evony worthwhile. filling your ranks with the resentful and the downtrodden is no way to spend your time. Players should be asking to join you, not doing so out of fear.

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  8. #28
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    On only a few occasions I asked someone I was hitting to join.Actually in those cases,I saw a good player in the making.Each time,I was correct and gained loyal players. But had they refused,I would have dropped it. I don't take people by force,they don't make good players (either loyalty-wise or the fact they folded). In some cases, alliance leadership has to make a decision.
    My first alliance, where I was VH grew quickly and drew attention.We were being hit by 2-3 very large alliances. We did end up joining one of them,that had about 7 sister offshoots. I became host of one of them quickly and thus began a long and satisfying Evony history for me. And for many that merged and moved on.

    If you are a host under a 'join or die' demand, I suggest you seek another alliance to merge with or sister.YOU can go down to one city, but I could never sit and watch that happen to my alliance. It would be unthinkable. Ask other hosts for help. Don;t be too proud.

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    I will not join. ps. try and kill me , I am not on that server LOL

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    Here's my 2 cents;
    If I find someone that I am attacking, and they seem to know what they are doing, I'll offer a place in the alliance. If they accept, then we work together to grow stronger. If they don't, then we battle it out, or stay as mutual neighbors. Just because this is a war game doesn't meant we can't have neutral enemies.

    On the reverse; If I'm getting beat by someone that is obviously better then myself, and I'm offered the chance to join them, I'll consider it. I'll look at where they are as an individual, and where they are as an alliance. I'll also look at myself, and my alliance. If I find the are truly better, then yes, I'll join them. If not, then I'll duke it out till there is nothing left in either of us.

    But, I try to look at the big picture. If I can, I try and take a few members from my alliance and have them follow me. But, the one thing I hate, is turning on friends. In the 9 months I've been playing, I've only ever hit 1 former alliance member. And the soul reason for that was, because he went inactive, and I knew it. Otherwise, I find it strongly distasteful to attack my former alli's, my friends.

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