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    Quote Originally Posted by japanpimp View Post
    I know you and Spawn like to tag team me. And I appreciate you sticking up for Spawn. Sticking up for friends is important.
    But....
    Last I checked the forums he never did. He just exited the discussion with "I don't have time to write up anything because I am busy."
    But since you are such a swell guy, how about you find it for us? Because for the life of me I just can't.
    And if it is possible to get level 10 gear on all workshop items and star everything up to level 12 with only $5..... please do share.
    To be honest, I don't expect you or anyone else to because it is all smoke.
    You guys can write up massive game guides that take hours to make and explain all kinds of stuff. But you will never be able to explain how a player got to level 10 gear across the board and 12 stars for only $5... and all in the first 2 months Age II was out.


    Really? Why is that? Spawn and Woldere seem to reveal everything else in their guides. So why not how to level up all gear to 10 and 12 stars for $5? Unless...... yeah, exactly. Unless they are not proud of how they did it.....

    Why am I raising this point and exposing Spawn? Because the OP of this entire thread said that spending $400 was about average to get 11 stars, let alone 12 that Spawn claims to have gotten.
    And that is not counting all of the materials required to get gear to level 10.

    Do you know howmuch it costs to get your workshop research to level 10?
    Total Materials: 1,758
    Total Game Coins: 4,382
    Total Cost: $438.20 USD

    Do you know how much it costs on average according to the OP to get 11 stars on all the gear?
    $400ish.

    That is over $800. So I would like to know why Spawns $5 admit is so far off from the OP.
    Just stop Japanpimp, how are you so confident that you can get to level 12 with another 2000 gems, what happens when u fail, then make it to 10 and fail another 3 times, we'll see who's confident about that. And Japan, it has nothing to do with "Sticking up for each other", most of your posts that they address mostly need to be addressed and they don't really say "yea spawn is totally right, they use their own opinions and arguments". In this case, you were accusing someone so yes woldere has to refer to him and back him up if he knows the truth (because you are possibly demeaning a very respected person on the forums and if it's not deserved, then someone will defend them). Going back on topic, you should have only posted here if you had a constructive criticism or very supportive argument to make bc otherwise this was a very good post and didn't really deserve that much negative feedback to be honest. He has math to back him up, idk what you have right now.
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    I've seen a lot of people who don't get variance, which is perfectly understandable, because in some ways, it goes against the human nature of trying to find patterns and draw conclusions from them.

    However, to say someone's (correct) math is wrong because you've had a certain perception on a random string of events...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woldere View Post
    $5 of his own money... if you can make other people pay for your gear, why not?
    LOL, ok. If that's the case, Spawn wins.
    Heck, I wish someone would pay for my stuff.... anyone interested in sponsoring my Evony activities?

    Quote Originally Posted by killerwave7 View Post
    Just stop Japanpimp, how are you so confident that you can get to level 12 with another 2000 gems, what happens when u fail, then make it to 10 and fail another 3 times, we'll see who's confident about that. And Japan, it has nothing to do with "Sticking up for each other", most of your posts that they address mostly need to be addressed and they don't really say "yea spawn is totally right, they use their own opinions and arguments". In this case, you were accusing someone so yes woldere has to refer to him and back him up if he knows the truth (because you are possibly demeaning a very respected person on the forums and if it's not deserved, then someone will defend them). Going back on topic, you should have only posted here if you had a constructive criticism or very supportive argument to make bc otherwise this was a very good post and didn't really deserve that much negative feedback to be honest. He has math to back him up, idk what you have right now.
    It was constructive. In fact, I complemented the OP on his hard work.
    Then I added that process is more important. Then came you and the hater bandwagon which I had to defend against.
    Well then where on earth were you to help stickup for my Evony game Overview?
    My Overview did not deserve ANY negative feedback but you were quiet as a mouse.
    In fact, Woldere said my original overview was good, then got on the hater bandwagon in the last couple of weeks and called my new one bad and said he was wrong on saying that my first one was good. You see a pattern here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by japanpimp View Post
    LOL, ok. If that's the case, Spawn wins.
    Heck, I wish someone would pay for my stuff.... anyone interested in sponsoring my Evony activities?



    It was constructive. In fact, I complemented the OP on his hard work.
    Then I added that process is more important. Then came you and the hater bandwagon which I had to defend against.
    Well then where on earth were you to help stickup for my Evony game Overview?
    My Overview did not deserve ANY negative feedback but you were quiet as a mouse.
    In fact, Woldere said my original overview was good, then got on the hater bandwagon in the last couple of weeks and called my new one bad and said he was wrong on saying that my first one was good. You see a pattern here?
    Um by the way, I can't check every post I see, I'm talking about the posts where there's basically nothing wrong with them, those are the ones that don't deserve much criticism at all... what process are talking about here, that's what we all want to know, even x~calibur was confused on what you meant...

    And we're not talking negative feedback, we're talking constructive criticism, urs was negative "too technical and exaggerated upgrade costs" is basically a direct telling off on his whole thing instead of suggesting something to tweak in his formula or something along the lines of that but instead you just demeaned the whole thing (just bc u make 1 statement in the beginning doesn't mean it takes away the meaning of the post), and didn't bother to address his mathematical insight, just stated it's too technical and you only need to worry about the process... which I'm still confused what you even meant by that, he was very detailed regarding it...

    not hating japanpimp, just trying to stop future posts that weren't needed (at least on a guide thread that basically has no wrong in it)

    this pretty much sums up my point:

    Quote Originally Posted by Woldere View Post
    I've seen a lot of people who don't get variance, which is perfectly understandable, because in some ways, it goes against the human nature of trying to find patterns and draw conclusions from them.

    However, to say someone's (correct) math is wrong because you've had a certain perception on a random string of events...
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    tl;dr pls don't feed the trolls

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    Lord almighty so help me god all of you are going to follow my process from now on and still reply to this post with "pffff... I already knew THAT" or "Pfff... that's nothing new. Everyone already knows THAT." But whatever. I am not a hater. -removed-

    Remember, consistency is key....
    First, screw stars unless ALL of your workshop research is level 10. DO NOT burn your gems otherwise.
    "Aw man! But Japanpimp, that will take like, forever!!"
    Well, this is a long term game so suck it up and stay focused.
    After you [broke down and bought materials so you can] reach level 10 research on all workshop gear use the Auto Upgrade tool for the stars. Auto upgrade to 4 stars on every gear with delicate gems only.
    After everything is 4 stars, use the Auto Upgrade tool again. This time set it to upgrade to level 7 using flawless gems FROM level 5. There is a way to select that with the Auto Upgrade tool pull down menus. If you fail an upgrade the stars will fall to 4 or something, I forgot. Repeat the process until all stars are 7.

    Once all stars hit level 7 use the same Auto Upgrade tool and push all stars to 8. If you fail an upgrade it will reset you to 0. Repeat the process starting from the beginning with the delicate gems.

    Once all stars on every piece of gear are at 8, skip 9 and push them to 10. Again, use the Auto Upgrade tool. If you fail then repeat the process from the beginning with delicate gems.

    Once all stars are 10 use manual and push every gear star set to 11. You will get more than 50% of all your stars from 10 to 11. For the ones that fail repeat the process from the beginning.

    I did this process and was able to upgrade all my stars on every piece of gear from 0 to 11 in under an hour. And it was cool to see my name flash on the screen 9 times in 5 minutes when I manually went from 10 to 11. And I only used about 2,000 gems.

    The point is, upgrade stars in small steps and across the board. Be consistent. Never ever try to upgrade all the way up to 12 or 13 in one shot. You will burn more gems than god. You need to "paint" the star upgrades in "coats". First spray on a layer of all level 4 stars. Then spray on a layer of all level 7 stars. Etc....

    Now, some may argue that it does not matter how you upgrade the stars because percents are percents and numbers are numbers. Well, Evony is not a calculator. It does not work like that. If it did not matter then every battle you fight you could predict exact losses if you had all of the information. But we all know it does not work like that. For some reason my process is very effective. I don't know why. But it is.
    Last edited by AbstractAngel; 08-27-2010 at 09:35 AM.

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    That is revolutionary japanpimp, now everyone will stop trying to just get that 1 star gear to LVL15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by japanpimp View Post
    This time set it to upgrade to level 7 using flawless gems FROM level 5.
    You realize that AGAIN, you're trying to say that your guessing work, your experience, is better than the actual the math. Try reading the OP again. You are leveling up suboptimally.

    Math does not lie, math is not subjective... it's just the way it is. How can you not understand that. Please stop posting.

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    Oh God This One is Special Even For JP Lol.

    Cool Story Bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woldere View Post
    I've seen a lot of people who don't get variance, which is perfectly understandable, because in some ways, it goes against the human nature of trying to find patterns and draw conclusions from them.

    However, to say someone's (correct) math is wrong because you've had a certain perception on a random string of events...

    japanpimp, all the facepalms in the world aren't enough to describe how foolish you look.
    Quote Originally Posted by 0Spawn0 View Post
    Oh God This One is Special Even For JP Lol.

    Cool Story Bro.

    Haha, but hey it was a good read, I just woke up about 5minutes ago, this has already made my day. (now where did i put the red rep). I keed I keed.
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