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Thread: August 20: Historic City Drafting Change and Bug Fixes

  1. #61

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    Quote Originally Posted by TCWNME View Post
    You seem to be a bit confused about the vote. It was clearly stated that the most popular option would not necessarily be the one that was implemented.



    Though option B was the most popular with just over 49%, it was hardly the vast majority of votes though. By mixing the two options, they were able to use the feedback of over 85% of the players that posted in that thread, and voted.
    There is also the feedback that is collected through social networking sites; through the customer service system; through the forum; communicated privately to the staff; and numerous other ways.

    Any change implemented would have been done with great consideration and only after having taken the thoughts and concerns of the players in mind when making the change.
    Ok.. so let's assume the vote was

    We're going to cut off a part of your body. Choose:-

    A. A leg
    B. An arm
    C. Your head

    35% vote for leg, 64% vote for an arm, and 1% votes for the head.

    You respond by cutting off both an arm and a leg.


    Yeah, I can see the logic there. Well it was what we wanted afterall.....



    Absolutely nowhere did anyone suggest reducing ALL drafting to 5%, so I cannot see how you can you can possibly state that any change implemented would have been done with great consideration and only after having taken the thoughts and concerns of the players in mind when making the change.

    Also, the vote was "NPC Drafting Change Proposals", since when were player-owned cities NPCs? No mention was made of any change to drafting from players yet it was implemented nonetheless, where was the feedback for this?

    If anyone's confused it's not the player-base
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  2. #62

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    Ok, I drafted from a COLONY which has 112K archers and got 700!!! Is this another change?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woldere View Post
    Would be nice if the uprising FB exploit would get fixed... unless evony wants people running around with 2000+ attack heroes.

    You're so picky about details details details.

    Like, oh my god.

  4. #64

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    Quote Originally Posted by TCWNME View Post
    You seem to be a bit confused about the vote. It was clearly stated that the most popular option would not necessarily be the one that was implemented.



    Though option B was the most popular with just over 49%, it was hardly the vast majority of votes though. By mixing the two options, they were able to use the feedback of over 85% of the players that posted in that thread, and voted.
    There is also the feedback that is collected through social networking sites; through the customer service system; through the forum; communicated privately to the staff; and numerous other ways.

    Any change implemented would have been done with great consideration and only after having taken the thoughts and concerns of the players in mind when making the change.
    In other words: We were humoring you with the vote. We believe the players are stupid so we will argue that combining two unwanted options is "better" than picking a single one. We didn't consider the thoughts and concerns of the players at all, as evidenced by the initial implementation of the change without word or warning, the complete disregard of the results of the fake feedback exercise/poll, and the refusal to make any kind of argument whatsoever as to WHY this change is being made and HOW it actually accomplishes some still-unnamed goal. We have no problem taking your money and refusing to provide the product you paid for, which is why we didn't simply implement these changes on fresh servers (like we did the attack button), but rather on all the servers.

    Well done. Kudos.
    Last edited by DarkmaneZero; 08-22-2010 at 12:57 PM.

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    When I bought my advaned teles. and made all my troops to take a HC, it was with an understanding what I would get in the outcome.
    Right. ... I get my HC and the very next morning the rules were changed. I have spent more then a little coin on this game, but since Evony feels it is quite okay to literally devalue the cost of my gameplay, I don't think anymore "cents buying" is going to be happening from me.
    Reading these forums, from the players view, and with almost no exception, this change is not well recieved. Nerfing HC's was a bad idea for whatever elusive reasoning behind it.

    Nerfing HC's with no warning to the player/customer base before hand only displays an attitude of total indifference to those that play and pay for this game.

    Also, after reading all these posts, I have not yet come across any Evony employ/dev that has taken the time to at least try to explain their reasoning.

  6. #66

    Default Horrible, Horrible Change

    So after spending 3 months and $1000s on this game... We get our 14, and are ready to do the following:

    1) Help other players get 12s by drafting HC's to reduce their troop count.
    2) Help other players by sending in (*free*) warrior waves for their 8s, 10s, and 12s.
    3) Level our heros through farming NPC 8-10s with Warriors only.
    4) Protect our area by threatening 60% draft of troops from an enemy city.

    Now, one week later.. we go from 700k warriors a day to 120k. We can't draft from 12s, and don't level, while threatening only 30%, which isn't significant.

    This is a *horrible* change.

    The amount of troops it took to take a 14 was exponentially more than a 12 for us (we lost 6 M on the 14, only 1.5 M on the 12s), and now the reward is so greatly reduced as to be almost the same as a 12 or 10. Horrible.

    Please change this back. It has greatly reduced our enjoyment and investment in continuing this game. I hate to leave, but we were a pve alliance, and you've stripped the reward for that.

    And the bumps to food and population? worthless. They amount to 1 hour of feeding per draft, or less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TCWNME View Post
    You seem to be a bit confused about the vote. It was clearly stated that the most popular option would not necessarily be the one that was implemented.



    Though option B was the most popular with just over 49%, it was hardly the vast majority of votes though. By mixing the two options, they were able to use the feedback of over 85% of the players that posted in that thread, and voted.
    There is also the feedback that is collected through social networking sites; through the customer service system; through the forum; communicated privately to the staff; and numerous other ways.

    Any change implemented would have been done with great consideration and only after having taken the thoughts and concerns of the players in mind when making the change.
    what a joke, if they really took player feedback then there wouldn't have been a change at all... needless to say that vote was a joke, most forum members had no idea there was a vote, and many could not vote, b/c we were not given access to post, or vote on the topic, this was a spit in the face to age2's pop., you'd almost think they were trying to kill the game with acts like this, I mean really, what is the point of age2 atm? The PvP is pointless(yes colonizing someone is pointless), and the PvE is pointless(really? should I kill off 20 plus days of troop production for an immobile city), we're all building troops now, and have nothing to use them on, I think it's fair to say that alot of people know how I feel when I say I have lost all motivation to play. The sad thing is, i'v put alot of money into this game, which has been change for the worst. And myself, and many other are suppose to just accept it b/c you think "Any change implemented would have been done with great consideration and only after having taken the thoughts and concerns of the players in mind when making the change", but if you go and read the topic that the vote was on, this isn't the case at all.
    Last edited by Piraal; 08-22-2010 at 11:46 PM.

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    Wow so the devs can actually take their time to delete 3 of my HONEST posts on here but have yet to answer a single question...They are spending more time trying not to answer the question and hiding it from us than it would honestly take to fix the mistake. I guess OUR money that PAYS them means nothing....guess what guys...if we stop paying for this game u stop getting paid!!! it might be worth it to at least give us a legit reason as to why this was done. and i fully expect this to be deleted because it speaks the truth and they do not want us spreading that around!

    --Violatio NA19 Owner of 2 useless 12s now!!

  9. #69

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    I Have spent as well and ya know I play on the same server. I guess it is because the non spenders who might in future spend complain that once someone takes a HC it can be used to amass troops that would otherwise cost res and time to build.

    I can see the problem with drafting From other HC's if in 14's or 16's or even Atlantis..... But that being said IT IS JUST WARRIORS DEVS. One of the most useless units EVER.....



    But Since AgeII Contains very few AgeI vets All the Noobs ( Sorry everyone..... I Mean those who have absolutely no Playing expirence or understanding of the game Mechanics ) See Mass amounts of troops and Go OMG and freak not realizing that warriors are only useful as Defenses against Scout Bombs and Mechs waves


    Personally I'd rather they either


    A

    Left NPC's in for 1 month and removed them on the first of each month as that would allow both larger and smaller players Alike to build up their hero's

    B

    Removed Drafting from Historical Cities and left it at 10% for Regular NPC's

    And

    C

    Left the King Or Queen hero in.... Right now there is no REAL Reward for Taking a Historic City..... Now Give me a new level 1 King or Queen and Hell yes. I Will spend All my time taking and HC I can and I think so will everyone.



    As It is We have to Build up an entire Historic City from scratch in 24 hours/ We don't get Mics and we don't get speed ups.


    Would be nice as a Level 12 HC needs for level 12 Res fields

    Pure Iron A Min Pop of 78K

    Lumber a Min Pop of 31k

    Food a Min Pop of 31K

    Stone... Who cares

    Sure being able to send out a fraction more troops is nice...... But being able to send out a fraction more troops in a game as defensively orientated means very little in the end as any who know the mechanics will agree


    Please Give us Some Notable reward for taking a NPC HC.... And Not a Player controlled one

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    I tried to reset the security code again, after it said that it was fixed (started it on August 19th, just got finished a few hours ago) and it is still asking me for my security code. What else can I do?

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