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    Default Simple suggestion that solves a ongoing problem.

    I know that im going to get flamed for this, but personally i believe its worth saying, take it as you will. Evony, you need to actually listen to some of the suggestions. Now i understand all the idiocy out there of "gimme free this, gimme free that" and the losers that dont want to earn their own stuff, and trust me, i acknowledge them as idiots, but thats not the point here. The issue im getting at is such things like, Age 2's new conquest system, a much awaites system that is supposed to make the game more fun right?

    Wrong.

    The players of Evony had discussed this with you for a while, a discussion i partook in and actually really like where it was going, it had comprimises to fit the needs of both the Conquest fans, and the Colonize fans. Simple suggestions, just as simple as a truce agreement, or vacation mode. If the person wants to go to conquest mode? sure go right on ahead, but you cant hit and run as you need to wait a week to switch out of it =D, it was good, gave time for retaliation towards retards looking for a quick hit, while at the same time, the people who didnt want to do conquest never had to.

    However, now, I have joined one of the new servers, and after a brief while out of newby prot, i get declared war against. I'm sitting here with no army yet just thinking to myself.. ok, not good, imediatly followed by "go go gadget truce agreement", now after applying said agreement, i find my attackers city, only to find there is an attack button. Evony's grand solution, is to force people to declare war against somebody, before going to conuer them. while the colonization option remains available even while not at war.

    Sombody explain this to me... So, you make it easier to colonize people... AND you make it so everybody can conquer everyone? My initial reaction was just "wow... they killed a really good idea with this.." and i felt a bit betrayed that they would lead the players on for so long as if they actually gave a crap, and then did something completely diffrent. But no, it doesnt end there.
    Now there are people that are ranting "when is it going to be merged onto the older servers?" and my hope is never.

    Evony, what the heck is the point of Age 2 now? Please tell me, Age 1 they could beat you to a blood pulp and then just harras your last city. This new system in Age 2 is now, they can beat you to a bloody pulp, harras your last city, AND THEN enslave it and rob you as you try to rebuild. I mean wtf... If it was an option for those with the testicular fortitude to risk it, thats one thing, but forcing complete newbies against the people who spend hundreds of dollars on the first day of the darn server to reach 1m pres. It never fails ther eis always 1. "im going to start on a new server to get a fresh sta... why does this guy already got 1.2m prestige on the first day?" Answer: he has more money than you, or is a little bit obsessed. But thats not my point. Bascily this entire rant is for one simple purpose, either get rid of the suggestion forum completely as its obviously a waste of space if your not going to take any of the ideas, or if your really daring, read what your players write, and perhaps take into account what they want. Im not saying bankrupt yourself trying to satisfy people that want everything to be handed to them on a silver platter, im just saying, dont lead people on that you listen, if your not going to actually follow through.


    1:03 AM, rants over, you can go away now -_-'

    zzz...
    Face the wrath of my wall of text!

    I honestly feel so bad for forcing people to read my wall of text that i put it in my sig.... no i wont use the enter key, or the tab key for that matter.

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    *takes out magnifying glass*

    Mhmm ... mmhmm ... you don't say!

    *takes notes*

    Ahh ... I understand now. But you see, I can't locate the suggestion in this wall of text. Can it be that my eyes are failing me? No?

    Moved to GD for further scrutiny. (:

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    haha that made me laugh out loud =]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verinium View Post
    I know that im going to get flamed for this, but personally i believe its worth saying, take it as you will. Evony, you need to actually listen to some of the suggestions. Now i understand all the idiocy out there of "gimme free this, gimme free that" and the losers that dont want to earn their own stuff, and trust me, i acknowledge them as idiots, but thats not the point here. The issue im getting at is such things like, Age 2's new conquest system, a much awaites system that is supposed to make the game more fun right?

    Wrong.

    The players of Evony had discussed this with you for a while, a discussion i partook in and actually really like where it was going, it had comprimises to fit the needs of both the Conquest fans, and the Colonize fans. Simple suggestions, just as simple as a truce agreement, or vacation mode. If the person wants to go to conquest mode? sure go right on ahead, but you cant hit and run as you need to wait a week to switch out of it =D, it was good, gave time for retaliation towards retards looking for a quick hit, while at the same time, the people who didnt want to do conquest never had to.

    However, now, I have joined one of the new servers, and after a brief while out of newby prot, i get declared war against. I'm sitting here with no army yet just thinking to myself.. ok, not good, imediatly followed by "go go gadget truce agreement", now after applying said agreement, i find my attackers city, only to find there is an attack button. Evony's grand solution, is to force people to declare war against somebody, before going to conuer them. while the colonization option remains available even while not at war.

    Sombody explain this to me... So, you make it easier to colonize people... AND you make it so everybody can conquer everyone? My initial reaction was just "wow... they killed a really good idea with this.." and i felt a bit betrayed that they would lead the players on for so long as if they actually gave a crap, and then did something completely diffrent. But no, it doesnt end there.
    Now there are people that are ranting "when is it going to be merged onto the older servers?" and my hope is never.

    Evony, what the heck is the point of Age 2 now? Please tell me, Age 1 they could beat you to a blood pulp and then just harras your last city. This new system in Age 2 is now, they can beat you to a bloody pulp, harras your last city, AND THEN enslave it and rob you as you try to rebuild. I mean wtf... If it was an option for those with the testicular fortitude to risk it, thats one thing, but forcing complete newbies against the people who spend hundreds of dollars on the first day of the darn server to reach 1m pres. It never fails ther eis always 1. "im going to start on a new server to get a fresh sta... why does this guy already got 1.2m prestige on the first day?" Answer: he has more money than you, or is a little bit obsessed. But thats not my point. Bascily this entire rant is for one simple purpose, either get rid of the suggestion forum completely as its obviously a waste of space if your not going to take any of the ideas, or if your really daring, read what your players write, and perhaps take into account what they want. Im not saying bankrupt yourself trying to satisfy people that want everything to be handed to them on a silver platter, im just saying, dont lead people on that you listen, if your not going to actually follow through.


    1:03 AM, rants over, you can go away now -_-'

    zzz...
    Hello my friend. Evony has said they are only testing the attack button on newer Age II servers. So I would suggest you setup on a Age II server that is older than Na20 and read this as it will help you:
    http://bbs.evony.com/showthread.php?t=146505

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    Quote Originally Posted by japanpimp View Post
    Hello my friend. Evony has said they are only testing the attack button on newer Age II servers.
    In nearly all other actual software "test" environments, people that are doing testing work are fully informed of the fact that they are involved in a test. There is also generally the lack of an option to make monetary contributions.

    IOW, if the company is "testing", they should be doing so in an actual test environment with fully-informed participants, not in a live environment that has no disclosure about it being a "test" and does not accept monetary contributions for situations that are allegedly "test" and could change.

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    Good point, Neko.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verinium View Post
    I know that im going to get flamed for this, but personally i believe its worth saying, take it as you will. Evony, you need to actually listen to some of the suggestions. Now i understand all the idiocy out there of "gimme free this, gimme free that" and the losers that dont want to earn their own stuff, and trust me, i acknowledge them as idiots, but thats not the point here. The issue im getting at is such things like, Age 2's new conquest system, a much awaites system that is supposed to make the game more fun right?

    Wrong.

    The players of Evony had discussed this with you for a while, a discussion i partook in and actually really like where it was going, it had comprimises to fit the needs of both the Conquest fans, and the Colonize fans. Simple suggestions, just as simple as a truce agreement, or vacation mode. If the person wants to go to conquest mode? sure go right on ahead, but you cant hit and run as you need to wait a week to switch out of it =D, it was good, gave time for retaliation towards retards looking for a quick hit, while at the same time, the people who didnt want to do conquest never had to.

    However, now, I have joined one of the new servers, and after a brief while out of newby prot, i get declared war against. I'm sitting here with no army yet just thinking to myself.. ok, not good, imediatly followed by "go go gadget truce agreement", now after applying said agreement, i find my attackers city, only to find there is an attack button. Evony's grand solution, is to force people to declare war against somebody, before going to conuer them. while the colonization option remains available even while not at war.

    Sombody explain this to me... So, you make it easier to colonize people... AND you make it so everybody can conquer everyone? My initial reaction was just "wow... they killed a really good idea with this.." and i felt a bit betrayed that they would lead the players on for so long as if they actually gave a crap, and then did something completely diffrent. But no, it doesnt end there.
    Now there are people that are ranting "when is it going to be merged onto the older servers?" and my hope is never.

    Evony, what the heck is the point of Age 2 now? Please tell me, Age 1 they could beat you to a blood pulp and then just harras your last city. This new system in Age 2 is now, they can beat you to a bloody pulp, harras your last city, AND THEN enslave it and rob you as you try to rebuild. I mean wtf... If it was an option for those with the testicular fortitude to risk it, thats one thing, but forcing complete newbies against the people who spend hundreds of dollars on the first day of the darn server to reach 1m pres. It never fails ther eis always 1. "im going to start on a new server to get a fresh sta... why does this guy already got 1.2m prestige on the first day?" Answer: he has more money than you, or is a little bit obsessed. But thats not my point. Bascily this entire rant is for one simple purpose, either get rid of the suggestion forum completely as its obviously a waste of space if your not going to take any of the ideas, or if your really daring, read what your players write, and perhaps take into account what they want. Im not saying bankrupt yourself trying to satisfy people that want everything to be handed to them on a silver platter, im just saying, dont lead people on that you listen, if your not going to actually follow through.


    1:03 AM, rants over, you can go away now -_-'

    zzz...
    Hello, im on na22 but i can't colonize without going to war.. And yes i agree, i've got alot of alliance members, spending alot of money when it just started. To 5 mins of the server started, there are already people with 100k prestige.. Now, about 1 month later, people already have 2mil prestige. But what about me? I didn't spend a single cent, but i am still surviving , although i have a low prestige, but personally to me, prestige don't mean anything to me.

    There are many ways to solve this big problem

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    Gonna be hard for them to listen to you,if you insult them

    I guess suspending me for a day changed me...NOT

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    Suggestion? Follow through with what you say your going to do. Thats it.

    As to the other posts, i was just anoyed that evony went through so much trouble to get all our opinions and then just proceeded to do it a completely diffrent way.

    @ RavenWings, yes its a lonnngg post, however i find that a long post with full details is paid attention to more than a short little flame fest. Id rather word thigns properly and get my opinion across than simply vent nonsense.

    @King Shii, to be honest i truly dont expect them to listen one way or another, i just wanted them to know how i felt on the matter.

    @ Neko lord, they have released that NA 20 and up are test servers, however, they forgot to include they arnt testing what they had suggested and asked our feedback on, they are testing turning it back into age 1. Thats where i have the problem.

    and @ JP i am set up on a earlier server, NA2 to be exact, i just like the way the new attack system sounded like it was goig to work, joined one of the new ones to see how i did, and was greatly disapointed to see that it in no way followed what was discussed on the official topic.
    Face the wrath of my wall of text!

    I honestly feel so bad for forcing people to read my wall of text that i put it in my sig.... no i wont use the enter key, or the tab key for that matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verinium View Post
    they have released that NA 20 and up are test servers, however, they forgot to include they arnt testing what they had suggested and asked our feedback on, they are testing turning it back into age 1. Thats where i have the problem.
    When someone signs up for an account on server NA20 and newer, they are not told that they are participating in a test of the attack button in Age II. There is no advisory when you are in the process of creating your account on those servers, nor is there an in-game mail that informs you of your participation in a test environment.

    The only way someone might find out is through these forums, possibly through Facebook, or by word of mouth.

    Proper notification would be when the account is being created or via an in-game mail immediately upon account creation.

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