Ahh Vaden See my posts werent finished my first post was intended to be one of many, but like most ppl you are scared of knowledge, this was a post for people who wanted to discuss ideas, but it appears impossible to do this o well
Ahh Vaden See my posts werent finished my first post was intended to be one of many, but like most ppl you are scared of knowledge, this was a post for people who wanted to discuss ideas, but it appears impossible to do this o well
Its a game, why does it have to be accurate? its accurate to itself. there is no reason it needs to be accurate to history unless you wanted to get a history lesson while playing... and who wants that? i dont, i want to play, farm, and kill. i dont really care about the history of it. i care about world history when in my world history class, but not so much on evony.
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this is all that needs to be said........there is no argument here........this game is in no way meant to be realistic, and this topic can not be discussed because of that fact, it can only be said and now you said it causing this pointless disturbance in the forums...............i vote close this pointless thread
I have yet to see a burn out that rivals the Skyline
Heres a video of a bad burnout
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB2qsj4Tzm0
good for you vote it pointless i vote you pointless
I have yet to see a burn out that rivals the Skyline
Heres a video of a bad burnout
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB2qsj4Tzm0
Olric, please be reasonable. The more you try to argue your point, the more it shows how pointless it becomes.
I am fully aware of the good that you are trying to contribute but it can sometimes be misplaced and misinterpreted or misrepresented.
If you want people to respect your opinion or thoughts, you need to be open to the fact that you may be wrong, even if you think you truly think you are right.
Some of the people argue against what you say because they truly think it is incorrect. Would it benefit us all if they agree with you knowing that they truly feel what you are saying is misrepresenting things?
I think you are reasonable and therefore no need to go low by resorting to personal bashing whether it be you being bashed or the other party concerned.
Then you'll earn the respect of others even if your opinion differs.
Ok so their is alot of talk about how armies are to big or i dont want to farm yadda yadda what ever
So lets look at it in real terms
The average person eats 2lbs of food per day, 14lbs per week, etc. totaling 728lbs per year
now lets look at your army, an match it in real time, the average person,(warrior) can move at an average pace of 1 mile in 10 minutes.,
It takes a warrior 2 minutes and 30 seconds to move 1 mile, this is a ratio of 4/1 which means that evony is sped up at a pace of 4/1 meaning... a 24 hour day on evony is 6 hours,.....
This means that evony days elapse in 1 of our days(getting complex just wait) this means that the evony year takes 91 days to complete which is 4 years for our 1 year.
Now we must create a relative unit with which to measure and compare. For the purposes of this
argument I am going to define 1 unit of food as 1lb of food(I have decided to use 1lb after much
reserch into histoical food consumption arc charts) and the 4/1 time ratio which I believe to be perfectly accurate mathmatically speaking
A warrior should consume 728lbs of food in 1 year, meaning his hourly consumption should be .08333 based on the relative unit of 1lb
Lets multiply that by 100k
100k warriors should consume 8333 food per hour.
now all humans consume the same average food,(yes I have taken into consideration a soilder on the march consumes more food than the soilder standing still, I have also taken into consideration that the solider training consumes more food that the soilder standing still) an archer is no different from a warrior in that regard(again this is reality based) however it takes 2 ppl to build an archer, Why is this? because it takes 1 person to shoot the arrow and a page to carry the equipment,...so an archer consumes double what a warrior consumes and this makes perfect logical sense. So here are the numbers by unit(I will include seige and explain why later
worker .0833 per hour
warrior .0833 per hour
scout .0833 per hour
pike .0833 per hour
sword .0833 per hour
archer .1666 per hour
cavalry .2499 per hour
phract .4998 per hour
porter .3332 per hour
ballista .4165 per hour
ram .833 per hour
pult .6664 per hour
ok their is your reality based hour consumption
Now lets multiply those by 100 as a base number of units to use, i will round them up or down based on the .5 rule of basic math
so here are those same numbers multiplied by our base of 100
worker 8
warrior 8
scout 8
pike 8
sword 8( these were rounded down to 8 so we gain some food here)
archer 17
cav 25
phract 50(these were rounded up so we loose some here
porter 33(rounded down
ballista 42(Up
ram 83(Down
pult 67(Up
ok now here is where we come into evonys stuff, a lvl5 gives us 3 million lbs of food a lvl10 20million,..that is a huge harvest. The average farm in the 14th century barley produced enough to feed the pore wretches that farmed it. so lets get real, if a lvl5 in a average pesant farm and a lvl10 is say a plantation that is ruled by a lord then i would say the average harvest of the lvl5 should be about say, 100lbs of food, and the lvl10 1000lbs of food. Now on average you can harvest the land in these parts (game wise germanic areas) twice a year so you can get 200lbs of food from a lvl5 in 1 year(91 days) and 2000lbs of food from a lvl10
now lets look at the average army of say a 7 mill prestige battle player(non farmer) we will say consumption of 10 mill an hour, so this is 240million lbs of food per day times 365 days = 87600000000lbs which is 4380 lvl10 hits per year
Now the whole purpose of this post is my attempt to address the many posts by players talking
about the consumption of food in evony. This is my own opinion and thought process. I understand that this will bring no change about in the evony world, I am mearly excercising my
brain here.
Lets look again at army size, in relative reality based terms(yes I KNOW! evony is not based on
reality) the armies(Including mine) are much bigger than the ones of middle dark age times, so the proposed question here is, can you enjoy the game without 5 million troops? One part of the
game that would have to change to incorporate my post here is the evony battle mechanics which will be my next Reality Based post. If we reduced the amount of food one could farm from
NPCS and or changed the way food was farmed all together(Historically speaking Barbarians of this time were nomads, having said this it would be difficult to extract much resources from a village of barbarians,) Perhaps you would trully have to farm, Id love to see some ideas on how
to change the way we farm.
so whats the solution? lets make the game realistic. I am a lord, I have my kingdom which i rule over, my kingdom includes lands which my people farm, forrest where my people hunt. plains where my people herd, etc. In this time frame if I am mustering a army of 100k soilders I am a GOD!! So ok your lands you can harvest, the harvests you must stack so that you can be bringing in food somewhat regularly, you must protect your land from intruders who wish to take what you have...
(I will continue to edit this post until it is complete in my mind, If you have nothing to add but drivel dont post at all, if however you have something to add please post or pm me)
Please rep if you like this post!
Last edited by Olric; 09-03-2010 at 04:44 PM.
didnt you already make a thread about this?
i believe making a new thread with the same post is against the rules...
if its not then its just dumb
(yes i see that you make some changes, but why not just make them in the original thread)
Why not just stop posting or add something that is in the spirit of what I am trying to do
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