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  1. #61
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    Yeah.. You got it now... Tradefire on pikes is warrior archer... At least that is what I use

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    If you send naked archers against Pike-combo, the defending archers get a free shot on you before you hit trade-fire, so that would be the major problem. I also found out this is also true when you send layer only Pike, which suggests that the archer range is something less than 2400, since Pike stand exactly 2400 away from them on round 3. I went back to using the sword-war layer proposed in the various guides a few weeks ago.

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    I apologize, but I didn't see transporters or scout in your spreadsheet. Are they not significant?

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    in 5.2k they would only matter if you used them for attacking on their own, well trans would be useless for that too.
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    Scouts might be worthwhile to calculate for scout bombs, but if you're just layering 1k to spread out the trap damage a bit more evenly, they might all be dead when the last remaining troop layer dies, and thus do no damage anyway.

    And yeah, who attacks with transports, unless they are really extremely bored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X~Calibur View Post
    which suggests that the archer range is something less than 2400, since Pike stand exactly 2400 away from them on round 3.
    Yeah, i assumed 45% range bonus from walls 10... so they range ~2340


    I probably should have added scouts, but the bomb damage is easily done in birtles calculator since they will always move first and will target the highest combined ATT unit on the field

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    Quote Originally Posted by AeroAgg06 View Post
    Yeah, i assumed 45% range bonus from walls 10... so they range ~2340
    That's good to hear another confirming voice. The prevailing wisdom on the boards has been 50%, but the prevailing wisdom isn't always right. Since I noticed my reports, I've managed to confirm it with several other people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X~Calibur View Post
    If you send naked archers against Pike-combo, the defending archers get a free shot on you before you hit trade-fire, so that would be the major problem. I also found out this is also true when you send layer only Pike, which suggests that the archer range is something less than 2400, since Pike stand exactly 2400 away from them on round 3. I went back to using the sword-war layer proposed in the various guides a few weeks ago.

    Right, this also explains the little back and forth we had via mail , my 155k archers killed only 30k because they get one free shot @ them in rnd 4 by D archers while they are killing pikes.

    I plan to use workers and some rams for the layers. would get the same result as swords and wars but with more consistent speed across the board

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveV View Post
    Right, this also explains the little back and forth we had via mail , my 155k archers killed only 30k because they get one free shot @ them in rnd 4 by D archers while they are killing pikes.

    I plan to use workers and some rams for the layers. would get the same result as swords and wars but with more consistent speed across the board
    Yeah, I had assumed you were using the correct layers since they are fully available in the various guides. It turns out, you weren't, and I wasn't aware of this, and so we ended up talking past one another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X~Calibur View Post
    Yeah, I had assumed you were using the correct layers since they are fully available in the various guides. It turns out, you weren't, and I wasn't aware of this, and so we ended up talking past one another.
    I was too entranched over the whole "naked archers to get trade fire" thing theory.

    Plus not many guides talk about the 14 pike combo (except spawn's, and he uses 3 layers which would archive only partial trade fire)..

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