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    Quote Originally Posted by Rota View Post
    I think the intent was for FB gifts to be a nice "bonus" reward, occasionally. But, people are getting max gifts EVERY DAY.

    People have become reliant on FB to pay for their troops, in the same way that farming is relied on, in Age 1. I don't think Evony wants players to have the 50% upkeep reduction from the stackable FB buff, on a permanent basis. There are players that are getting 20 amulets a day, or effectively 0 upkeep costs from all these FB gifts and bonuses. With the plethora of free FB stuff, it seems so much easier for an Age 2 player to play without spending a dime. I certainly hope there is some ad-click type payment Evony is getting from these gifts. If there isn't, then it seems to be in the best financial interest to discontinue the FB exploits.
    I have to disagree with you here Rota.

    The "intent" was for Evony to get their new game(Age II) advertised to all of the facebook users through the FB postings. They added these rewards, not for the players who are in game, but instead for all of those players "friends" on facebook to see the postings and open a "free" account to play.

    You can clearly see the evidence in that through the countless number of times that they have had to "nerf" the FB rewards because they were "not as they intended". So, while it may be easier for an Age II player to play without money, they are more than making up for that through the free advertising of their game on FB.

    Additionally, hero gear alone gives a MAJOR advantage to people willing to PAY to play. There's nothing on FB that helps with hero gear, so FB really doesn't affect coiners vs. non coiners where it really matters...hero's stats and Historical Heroes.
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    Great job AMP, I think it'd be easier just to start FB gifting Historics to enemy allies, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flandore View Post
    I have to disagree with you here Rota.
    You make excellent points. I'm aware of those other reasons, and that argument is perfectly reasonable. That's why I just said "think." I definitely cannot speak with authority about Evony's intent.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rota View Post
    I think the intent was for FB gifts to be a nice "bonus" reward, occasionally.
    Only they know the real intent/purpose for the FB gifts. If the gifts are working as intended, this bug will get fixed. If the FB gifts are being exploited and not serving their intended purpose, then Evony will tweak the system.



    Good post, Flan... +rep.
    It's nice to see a counter-argument made without flames or instigating language.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lazzzzzzzzalicious! View Post
    i started to read this and agree with everything rota says. if people just listened to him the forums would be a better place.
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    Rota is correct.

    I don't even understand the question.

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    I understand why evony may want to stop the heroic companions
    but theres no reason to stop a guy from getting 1500 pikemen or 3k cav a day for free
    Also I think the main problem with heroic companions is that when they are used with vesta's blessing they render you 0 food upkeep allowing people who can spend the money a very big unfair advantage against other players.

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    As was already stated, many A1 players came here due to the advertised 'no need to farm' I for one will leave in a heartbeat if I have to go back to farming like mad to feed my troops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oro View Post
    I understand why evony may want to stop the heroic companions
    but theres no reason to stop a guy from getting 1500 pikemen or 3k cav a day for free
    Also I think the main problem with heroic companions is that when they are used with vesta's blessing they render you 0 food upkeep allowing people who can spend the money a very big unfair advantage against other players.
    For those who don't buy Vestas, the Heroic Companion posts are practically a necessity. Only a small number of players actually use vestas daily, remember, you only get 1 for each $30 purchase. So, I'd say your reasoning is a bit faulty there.
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    i would say if its a nerf on botters then on them, but honestly, who wants to bot its a cheat i look down upon cheating.
    if they are going to actually nerf FB heroic companion buff then atleast announce it....
    as at the current moment, with the buff giving a 50% reduction when maxed, using 25% food production buff and farming, all i seem to be doing is ammassing food. oh and popping archers. hmmm GIVE NA6 AN ATTACK BUTTON DAMMIT!!!!!!!!
    large armies problem solved for the servers with no attack button, bring the attack button in.
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    Come on mods - evony where are you. At least give us an answer on this.

    Roll back your changes, fix it or what ever. Just get it done I am bored, bored, bored.

    The argument that this is a deliberate change to hit people with large armies - would again backfire on them - as the little guys will be colonized more if it is the only way I can feed the troops. Every single one of which were trained in my barracks or drafted with no help from any form of hax or glitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flandore View Post
    There's nothing on FB that helps with hero gear, so FB really doesn't affect coiners vs. non coiners where it really matters...hero's stats and Historical Heroes.
    Extra Amulets give an increased statistical chance at winning materials, material boxes, lost armor scripts, medal boxes, or game cents to be able to buy the afore-mentioned items. Yes, even medal boxes are a perk now with Age II and Facebook v. non-Facebook players, since, like with Age I, the medal drops were greatly reduced on the newer servers.

    Further, troops are able to be gifted, which means that Facebook players did not have to expend the resources that a non-Facebook player had to for the same troops. This means that the Facebook player can produce more troops with the same amount of resources, thus giving them an advantage over a non-Facebook player. This advantage can then lead to the Facebook player having an advantage in acquiring a Historical Hero.

    Once the Historical Hero has been obtained, the extra amulets give an increased statistical chance.... etc, etc, etc... Rinse, repeat.

    While one could theoretically argue that the boost of having Facebook is "minimal", it certainly is not non-existent. The degree of how "minimal" the boosts are will depend on your vantage point. As a non-Facebook player, they look pretty good to me, but not enough for me to compromise my personal privacy by creating a real Facebook account, and not enough for me to compromise my integrity by creating a fake Facebook account, in violation of Facebook's Terms of Use.

    As I said very early on with Age II:

    Have checkbook or Facebook - You Rule!!

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    lol, the only reason I even had a FB acct was to look at pics my daughter posted, so no bother to me to use it for evony.
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    lmao im just dissapointed that its getting harder and harder to keep interest in the game, as i find colonisation totally pointless, i therefore have no one to use those troops on, and they breed rather fast because i have 110 barracks spread over 8 cities, which means i have a rather largish army...... and i have a large number of farming raids off each day. im considering on farming from all 8 cities and using the camp option too food problem solved for each city for 1 and a half days......
    im assuming its way too much to ask for the attack button to be rolled back in order to give those of us who dont like colonising the fun and enjoyment of attacking (seriously, players in the same bracket as i am and higher generally are not colonised due to 1. army size, 2 we aint worth the trouble and 3 the only real challenge is to farm lv10s and hit HCs.......... Zzzzzzzzzz
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