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    As a good farmer and not often enough retaliater I've been honor dumped on way too much for my own happiness!

    I understand the hero theories of loyalty and open spaces in FH.

    However when I now want to learn to honor dump on others, I find I'm constantly losing my heroes. Since I don't have a city with only low lv heroes in it, that means I'm losing decent heroes.

    So how does one go about honor dumping efficiently??? I've been dumped on by huge players who send dozens or hundreds of waves at me, and they seem to have endless supplies of crappy heroes. Do they keep a separate city with just crap heroes in it just for dumping????

    Also, I can't seem to totally get a handle on how to assess a good dumpee choice...

    All help in this matter greatly appreciated. I'm fed up of my 3 Mil honor, can't wait to heal again.

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    build scouts and send no hero on scout missions.. either your scouts will die or you get a report... win, win either way


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ithilid View Post
    build scouts and send no hero on scout missions.. either your scouts will die or you get a report... win, win either way
    Ey??

    Whats this got to do with scouting?

    He might be referring to scout bombing, but not scouting??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollandrock View Post
    Ey??

    Whats this got to do with scouting?

    He might be referring to scout bombing, but not scouting??
    If your scouts get killed by enemy scouts on a scouting mission, you will lose honor.
    Op, do you really not have one garbage hero to send?

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    you don't need a city full of heroes you only need an inn
    if your only goal is to dump honor send a bomb with any hero
    if you want to kill max troops then fill his hall by sending about 10 or 20 atks of 1 scout with a bum hero, if he is lost recruit another
    then send bombs with a good hero

    never bomb with a great hero because you never know if he might come on and clear his hall

    good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluefingas View Post
    If your scouts get killed by enemy scouts on a scouting mission, you will lose honor.
    Op, do you really not have one garbage hero to send?
    Certainly I have one or two, but in order to dispose of 3 Mil honor, I get the sense that I'd have to dispose of dozens... As i don't imagine I can get rid of that much honor in just a couple of hits? or can I?

    Is there a chart of honor value somewhere? I know it has to do value lost per side?

    For example, given two players of equal tech levels...

    if 50k scouts hit fortifications
    if 50k scouts hit compact defense

    How does prestige difference affect...
    How does honor difference affect...

    I realise I could just go out there and burn a few 100k scouts, and a dozen heroes, and whatever, but I could end up paying the wrong price... I'd pre prefer somekind of fact sheet to start off with. I can't imagine there isn't some sort of chart or breakdown thread.... nearly every other topic seems to have em!

    I just seem to be missing something...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonCable View Post
    you don't need a city full of heroes you only need an inn
    if your only goal is to dump honor send a bomb with any hero
    if you want to kill max troops then fill his hall by sending about 10 or 20 atks of 1 scout with a bum hero, if he is lost recruit another
    then send bombs with a good hero

    never bomb with a great hero because you never know if he might come on and clear his hall

    good luck
    Are there any written guidelines for dump expectations? How does prestige difference and honor difference affect results?

    Thanks

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    Honor loss is affected by how much resources is lost, from what I heard and seen on the forumns, I attacked a city earlier today, and I won but gained negative since I lost more troops that cost alot more then resouces to produce then the defender. If you really cant free up one space for junk heros, then cut out heros you dont need. Prestige you get from troop building, and city building, and hitting NPCs,honors only from players.

    I guess suspending me for a day changed me...NOT

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Shii View Post
    Honor loss is affected by how much resources is lost, from what I heard and seen on the forumns, I attacked a city earlier today, and I won but gained negative since I lost more troops that cost alot more then resouces to produce then the defender. If you really cant free up one space for junk heros, then cut out heros you dont need. Prestige you get from troop building, and city building, and hitting NPCs,honors only from players.
    So on that particular hit u were going in blind, u had no idea what kind of honor loss you'd get?

    Did you have intel before? or was it open gates?

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    If you use phracts, you can dump alot of honor.

    I managed to lose 1mil honor by killing 15k phracts ... And on the other side killing 10k pikes.
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