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    Quote Originally Posted by TNTitan View Post
    So on that particular hit u were going in blind, u had no idea what kind of honor loss you'd get?

    Did you have intel before? or was it open gates?
    No i wasnt going in blind LOL, thats dumb, the person had 2000 abastis, and 1000 traps, and gates was closed, I sent around 5000 cavs*wrong wall defenses and troops I sent*, got pass the wall defense,losing around 200-300 cavs to the traps, and I lost around 321 honor. I show the battle report if I can find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollandrock View Post
    Ey??

    Whats this got to do with scouting?

    He might be referring to scout bombing, but not scouting??
    you lose honor when you fail to scout someone. doesnt anyone pay attention to their reports?

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    quickest way in the world to dump honor is to scout someone. plan and simple. yes use a hero for gods sake. your just wasting your scouts if ya dont. yes use a good hero for gods sake. again you waste your scouts if ya dont. if your worried about losing your best hero... well maybe you shouldnt just have ONE good hero. you should be working mutiple heros... as far as losing it while scouting... yes it can happen, but not very often. find yourself a nice fat red target and scout the living hell out of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Ekted View Post
    quickest way in the world to dump honor is to scout someone. plan and simple. yes use a hero for gods sake. your just wasting your scouts if ya dont. yes use a good hero for gods sake. again you waste your scouts if ya dont. if your worried about losing your best hero... well maybe you shouldnt just have ONE good hero. you should be working mutiple heros... as far as losing it while scouting... yes it can happen, but not very often. find yourself a nice fat red target and scout the living hell out of him.
    I kinda realise that there are multitudes of ways of dumping, what i'm looking for are some charts or threads with specific stats in them, I've hit people with similar losses and similar prest/honor differences, but still get different honor losses, I'm trying to quantify things... But since no one here has offered any kind of battle honor mechanics, I guess they've never been published by anyone...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNTitan View Post
    As a good farmer and not often enough retaliater I've been honor dumped on way too much for my own happiness!

    I understand the hero theories of loyalty and open spaces in FH.

    However when I now want to learn to honor dump on others, I find I'm constantly losing my heroes. Since I don't have a city with only low lv heroes in it, that means I'm losing decent heroes.

    So how does one go about honor dumping efficiently??? I've been dumped on by huge players who send dozens or hundreds of waves at me, and they seem to have endless supplies of crappy heroes. Do they keep a separate city with just crap heroes in it just for dumping????

    Also, I can't seem to totally get a handle on how to assess a good dumpee choice...

    All help in this matter greatly appreciated. I'm fed up of my 3 Mil honor, can't wait to heal again.
    wow an entire 3mil honour hmm 10 sb's done all gone happy? u have 1-2 slots per city u just keep bombing them and recruit whenever u lose a hero and in future i wouldnt complain about 3mil honour lol

    [ssfgrgawer]: i send transvestites, you never know what they will bring home, its useually diseses tho
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    Quote Originally Posted by guess_who View Post
    wow an entire 3mil honour hmm 10 sb's done all gone happy? u have 1-2 slots per city u just keep bombing them and recruit whenever u lose a hero and in future i wouldnt complain about 3mil honour lol
    I don't have that many scouts to throw away! Which is why i'm looking for some kind of chart breaking down how much honor in which situation, looking for optimal efficiency oh honor/loss

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    Wars, gotta love em!! I was left with over 30mil honor after just one week. Being a host of an alliance at the time I expected it. Im back down to just over 4mil.

    1. Scouting
    Scouting with a high hero after making sure his honor is 100% serves to bring home a scout report as well as drop honor. I add stone to the scout and if they all die I lose extra honor.

    2. Warrior bombs
    Work in much in the same way and you get a better honor drop, especially if you send stone with the attack. They carry more than scouts and cheaper to make.

    3. My Favorite. Cavalry/Cataphract/Scout Bomb
    With this method sending a low hero is a waste, especially after you spent so much time and money training them. So I send a fairly high hero but make sure I send a bunch of low heros in scout bombs to land before the main. If this catches right -5mil honor.

    4. Mech waves
    If you can afford it, a massive amount of honor drop.

    It's my understanding that the more the troops cost the more honor you drop if they all die. Happy hunting.

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    Ok, I'm kinda upset because I posted something here TWO DAYS AGO that I really thought would help you out a lot, but it said it had to wait for a mod to approve it. I guess that means it got disapproved--although I can't imagine why?!

    Anyway, lemme see if I can figure out how to post it again without the mods axing it. I'm thinkin maybe it was because I posted screenies with peep's names on 'em...even though they were willing collaborators...

    EDIT: Ok, basically here's what you do. Utilize the tons of rocks you have just sitting around and build defensive trebs in one of your cities in your safe zone. The more you build, the more honor you'll lose per hit. I generally build about 5k but know people who use either 10k or fill walls full with only DTs. Make sure you have at least lvl 9 engineering and machinery, but preferably lvl 10. When you are ready to dump honor, close your gates and fill your feasting hall then have an alliance mate with 0 honor (or as close to 0 as you can find) attack you with 1k pikes and 1k archers per wave. This is the result:


    If you have somebody with high honor attack you, the outcome is very different:


    You'll find that most of your DTs regenerate between hits and you can dump a good 1.5 mill per 9 waves depending on the participant's honor levels, techs, and number of DTs originally built. This is my favorite method for dumping honor since you're not wasting troops like every other method I've heard of (the 0 honor attacker will get 50-65% heal on what are minimal losses to begin with) and you're not wasting a bunch of resources either (who doesn't have about 200 mil stone to spare?).

    Also, for more tips and info on how to dump honor please see the following links. You probably couldn't find them since they've been ARCHIVED--a cruel injustice imo (especially when things like Birtle's combat calc and DarkBrady's combat mechanics guides are now collecting dust there and, especially in the case of DarkBrady's guide, I don't think I ever would've gotten into this game if I hadn't had somebody like him to spell out the basics for me) but let's not go there...
    Honor Dropping in Detail -- Dxter
    Honor Dropping -- Naems
    Last edited by MiraLicious; 10-21-2010 at 01:22 PM. Reason: Had to be sneaky and tip-toe around the mod's ban hammer...I know it's wrong...but why does it feel so right?

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    Aww Mira you are letting secrets out..... *shakes head* .. lol
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    Use your inn to recruit cheap heroes and send them.
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