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Thread: Rockfalls -another change w/o notice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linoge View Post
    The bigger they are, the harder we fall at this point; here is a recent lv 8 report with the new battle mechanics.

    http://battle3.evony.com/default.htm...519bf0838a.xml

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    I have the same on 8lvl walls and I have archery 10lvl. If for some reason there is no range for the rocks and they can reach mechanics everywhere just it must be told. I want to know
    1. Whether rocks have range limitation or not, at least.
    2. Do they kill only mechanics on any range or live troops, too?

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    I agree what is the point of a game when the rules are changed at the whim of a developer?

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    Wow look at all the posts. Everyone is willing to roll with the change, if only the devs made patch notes or communicated the change. We have an english liason. Please let us know of upcoming changes!

    There are things that people complain about that I feel are a bit wild and meaningless. This is NOT one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ByronXAN View Post
    Also.. before those of you jump the gun and flame guys like me for "war w/o losses" or some such...

    It's not about that... It's about losing troops due to a major mechanics change in gameplay without PRIOR notice.
    ABSOLUTELY true. Game change is fine - with notice - by mail in the game, not by some hard-to-find forum thread. One of the basic tenets of fairness is due process, which requires notice and an opportunity to be heard BEFORE a change of some kind. When you make the change without due process, you create a climate for revolution - some of the best players quit just a few hours ago (at 06:00 server time).
    Last edited by Pookinator; 06-01-2009 at 09:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linoge View Post
    The bigger they are, the harder we fall at this point; here is a recent lv 8 report with the new battle mechanics.

    http://battle3.evony.com/default.htm...519bf0838a.xml

    ~Linoge
    wow.

    you traded a lot for that little bit of resources.

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    Pookinater^^ Said like a lawyer....and very true!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pookinator View Post
    ABSOLUTELY true. Game change is fine - with notice - by mail in the game, not by some hard-to-find forum thread. One of the basic tenets of fairness is due process, which requires notice and an opportunity to be heard BEFORE a change of some kind. When you make the change without due process, you create a climate for revolution.
    They took the time to get us a letter to the players about that state of Evony and how they're listening to our concerns. Why not patch notes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe.Boi View Post
    Agreed, I know everyone would like to go into a war with 0 losses but it won't happen, it brings a challenge to the game now.

    On another note, Yes there should of been a warning and also the values need to be changed
    I agree, it is better to have some better defence for the cities, but MUST be some logic. For example, the current logic for the range could stay, BUT... fortification and troops can get bonuses depends on level of the Walls - each lvl gives 5% of all values. So, Archery and other techs + Wall bonus will give some advantage to those who defence the cities. It would be undestandable change. But not the one, when rocks can fly everywhere.

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    For some reason the other thread got closed when it was heading back to a good topic, so I'll try here...

    I think 2 changes were made to the battle engine:

    1) Rockfalls (and perhaps logs) can now hit siege weapons... Notice would have been nice, but I find this to be a good, logical change.

    2) What if, rather than ranged units acting stupid and waling forward (as some have guessed) they do so only if there are no covering troops? That doesn't make sense in real life, but I could see it as a game mechanic.

    In essence, I don't think they nerfed NPC farming all together, they just nerfed the ballista trick.

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    Change was ok, but I have to agree with everyone else with regard to informing players when something like this is done.

    More people will be supportive of the game improvments as long as there's reasonable notice via the in-game message system.

    With things the way they are, it's difficult to argue that from a communication point of view that the devs are failing.

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