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    Quote Originally Posted by acer5200 View Post
    Yea, but a blista shoots an extremely large arrow.

    It's more like saying a cav and phract is the same thing.
    The only thing a 5.2k Defense and a CD have in common is that they have the word defense in them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by japanpimp View Post
    Compact Defense
    This is a technical term. Terms have meanings because multiple members community decide to use them in a clear and specific sense. Being a member of a community means learning how the others in a community use language and doing likewise. You misused a term with a fairly clear, specific, and communal sense.

    You asked for a dictionary earlier. Sure, there's no official dictionary, but it also raises the question of where any dictionary gets the meanings for their words. They do so by studying the words as used by the community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluefingas View Post
    How can you say old Age II servers are great because you can focus on historicals? To my knowledge, you don't own one because you're too afraid of losing it.
    Focusing on Historicals does not mean you need to own one. If I was Braveheart and I focused on English Castles it means that I focus on ATTACKING English Castles. I have no intention of owning one. We done here? Cause I can keep school open all day if you want.

    Quote Originally Posted by X~Calibur View Post
    Resources should be fairly inconsequential at this stage in the game, and especially in the low numbers reported here. Time is a bigger factor, but he doesn't have to build anything except the wall forts in sequence. 238k archers x 2.34 is the time equivalent of 556k Pikes.

    Also, part of the point of the honor system is to measure exactly who is winning the resource battle, since the equation for who gains/loses honor is based on the resource value of the units sent.
    True, but if you also consider build time spent on traps, abatis, trebs and logs that I wiped I am ahead time wise.

    Quote Originally Posted by Satan View Post
    The only thing a 5.2k Defense and a CD have in common is that they have the word defense in them.
    Well guess what Satan and Acer.. today is your lucky day. Today I am changing the meaning of Compact Defense to mean roughly "A city with a crapload of troops in it and full wall defenses"
    Seeing how there is no official Evony term Representative I will change the meaning of Compact Defense today..... and until there is an official dictionary, terms are up for revision by anyone.

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    There's lots of arguments about the best troop mix for a compact defense. The bottom line is that a CD has ZERO traps/abatis. It's a defense made to start the battle at normal range, instead of 5k distance. Noone will ever agree on the proper troop mix, but we can all agree that even one trap or abatis makes the defense lose it's "compact" quality.

    If there is even one trap/abatis, then the city does not qualify as "compact defense."
    Quote Originally Posted by Lazzzzzzzzalicious! View Post
    i started to read this and agree with everything rota says. if people just listened to him the forums would be a better place.
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    Rota is correct.

    I don't even understand the question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by japanpimp View Post
    Well guess what Satan and Acer.. today is your lucky day. Today I am changing the meaning of Compact Defense to mean roughly "A city with a crapload of troops in it and full wall defenses"
    Seeing how there is no official Evony term Representative I will change the meaning of Compact Defense today..... and until there is an official dictionary, terms are up for revision by anyone.
    You'll be the only one using it in that sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rota View Post
    There's lots of arguments about the best troop mix for a compact defense. The bottom line is that a CD has ZERO traps/abatis. It's a defense made to start the battle at normal range, instead of 5k distance. Noone will ever agree on the proper troop mix, but we can all agree that even one trap or abatis makes the defense lose it's "compact" quality.

    If there is even one trap/abatis, then the city does not qualify as "compact defense."
    japanpimp doesn't care about this, he just wants to stay ignorant.

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    Ok "Compact Defense" is called "Compact defense" Because when you start at normal range your troops are "Compacted" together. When you add T/A/D your troops become un"Compacted" and break apart attacking seperately. And therefore it is not a Compact defense, but merely a defense.

    When you post on forums, you are posting to other forum users correct?

    If you posted on a spanish forum, you would speak in spanish no?

    This is an evony forum, with evony terms decided by evony players and has unwritten terms and rules, like many in life.

    Do you only follow rules that are written down? Well then smash your computer and save us all some grief, because that rule isnt written down isnt it? But no doubt you wont do it.

    Swallow your pride and just admit you are wrong.

    Sorry some people really grind my gears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acer5200 View Post
    It's more like saying a cav and phract is the same thing.
    they are if you dont think about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by japanpimp View Post
    True, but if you also consider build time spent on traps, abatis, trebs and logs that I wiped I am ahead time wise.
    Not even close actually. All of those fortifications are the archer equivalent of 2000 archers (+/- 100) depending upon hero ratings. That hardly makes up the difference by a long shot. If we convert everything into Pike-build-time, you're still about 200k pikes short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TCWNME View Post
    Why is your stockpile at 2? It ruins the whole report!
    His stockpile was at 2 the last time JP did one of these test attacks. This shows a lack of effort research wise and I for one am disappointed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X~Calibur View Post
    Not even close actually. All of those fortifications are the archer equivalent of 2000 archers (+/- 100) depending upon hero ratings. That hardly makes up the difference by a long shot. If we convert everything into Pike-build-time, you're still about 200k pikes short.
    Actually, you are wrong. I have 180 barracks in total that can produce ~380k archers/day.... ~400k in 28 hours... and that is with only a 650ish attack hero.
    So in ~17 hours I can produce 238k archers and the rest of the troops I lost.
    Atlantis cannot build 350k pike, 2762 traps, 499 logs, 1271 abatis, 381 trebs in 17 hours. I have a 750ish attack hero. And even with that attack hero I am looking at ~24 hours just to rebuild that amount of wall defenses, not including the 350k pike. Like I said, I win time wise and resource wise.
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