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    Default Awesome Age II Hero system

    I love the Age II hero system. You level your heros to 100 (easily done in a couple days of hitting NPC's) and you're done. No more constant leveling heros like Age I. Major Kudos to Evony for the Age II hero idea and the workshop/hero gear/star thing. It makes the game much more enjoyable.
    If I lost a hero I spent an entire year leveling I would poke my eyes out with a rusty spoon. It also helps to level the playing field so heros are not SO far above others.

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    What to you mean by the level the laying field?

    All it does is give spenders a major advantage and handcuff non spenders.

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    And this is one of the reasons I don't paly age II. Everyone says Evony gets boring too quickly. And what the hero cap does is make that one less thing for the player to do and enjoy. So, that is one of 2 reasons I quite AGE II.

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    I agree with webby. It does not level the playing field. In fact, non-spenders in Age I like myself could still have excellent heroes by putting time and effort into them and be on a par with spenders heroes. However, in Age II, once us non-spenders get them to level 100, our measly gear which will be at level 2 or 3 (need to buy materials and lost armour scripts) with a maximum of something like star level 8, will be far behind spender's heroes. Now, I know spenders deserve an advantage, I'm just saying that the playing field is not level.

    Another thing about heroes is that spenders can obtain far more Historic Heroes than a non-spender. This further imbalances things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero~v.1 View Post
    Yes and no. To a new player, sure, it's awesome. To an old player? No, it sucks. When you're used to getting high attack and being able to make troops quickly, Age2 looks not worth playing because you take months to build a decent army that can be expended within a few minutes. On Age1, you can make the same army as fast as you can create population once you get that hero. If Age1 didn't exist, I'd agree with you. But since it does, I must say that Age2 made some drastic changes that do not follow how Age1 had lived and was quite unexpected when Age2 came out which is probably why it was (and still is) met with hostility among Age1 players.
    Well, keep in mind, Age 2 is not Age 1.1.
    Age II is totally different. It's like old school MS-DOS by Microsoft, think of MS-DOS as Age I. Then comes Age II, that is MS Windows. Were there still DOS lovers wen Windows was released? Yes, lots of them. It's OK to love DOS. But that ship has sailed. Time to move forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by japanpimp View Post
    Well, keep in mind, Age 2 is not Age 1.1.
    Age II is totally different. It's like old school MS-DOS by Microsoft, think of MS-DOS as Age I. Then comes Age II, that is MS Windows. Were there still DOS lovers wen Windows was released? Yes, lots of them. It's OK to love DOS. But that ship has sailed. Time to move forward.
    In the OP, you were talking about Age I as a comparison. So in my post I defended it. Also, Age I is far from dead. Thousands still flock to a new Age I server when they open.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero~v.1 View Post
    Actually, I'm thinking a better analogy would be Age1=XP and Age2=Vista.

    Vista was the ******* child OS when it was released (and sort of still is). It was full of bugs, wasn't all that much of a performance improvement, and just mainly offered some new bells and whistles. Isn't that really kind of like what Age2 does?
    Hm, XP and Vista are basically the same. They are both Windows. The only difference that I can see between the two is graphical and new window layout. Nothing really that different.
    But Age II really does have some very very different features than Age I.
    For example, how leadership effects a battle is way different than Age I, some have said it is nearly the opposite. No more building NPC's. Cannot take normal player cities, only historicals. Cap on hero levels. Sending rainbows with 1 of each layer does not work anymore. Can draft troops, use policies, Strategems, Etc.... lots and lots of things that are very different from Age I, not just a facelift. All in all Age II is a very different game. Different strategy, different code, just different. Yes, some things are similar to Age I. But overall Age II is a different animal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richie_B View Post
    I agree with webby. It does not level the playing field. In fact, non-spenders in Age I like myself could still have excellent heroes by putting time and effort into them and be on a par with spenders heroes. However, in Age II, once us non-spenders get them to level 100, our measly gear which will be at level 2 or 3 (need to buy materials and lost armour scripts) with a maximum of something like star level 8, will be far behind spender's heroes. Now, I know spenders deserve an advantage, I'm just saying that the playing field is not level.

    Another thing about heroes is that spenders can obtain far more Historic Heroes than a non-spender. This further imbalances things.
    Can you respond to this post JP? It seems that you have ignored it, whether purposely or not, I do not know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richie_B View Post
    Can you respond to this post JP? It seems that you have ignored it, whether purposely or not, I do not know.
    Not on purpose. Just had to login to my game account and gather info for a response. You know how I roll....

    So here is what I will say.
    The Age II hero system is far more balanced and fair than Age I. Yes, spenders in both Age I & II have the initial advantage. But in Age II non-speners can get heros just as strong as spenders if they are patient and game hard. Then everyone can have more or less the same level heros with similar attack levels, say within a 30% range. Here numbers to support it...

    In the last 3 months I have gotten the following materials from wheel spins. I have probably spun the wheel about 300 times in the last 3 months. Easy to do if you get facebook ammulets.
    72 fabrics
    131 Thuroughbreds
    100 crude gemstones
    74 woods
    79 iron ore

    That is enough to get you at least level 6-7 gear. Add a couple more months and you can get enough materials for level 10 gear as well as enough gems from farming to put 8 stars EASY on each gear. That will give you strong enough heros to compete with the spenders. Why? Because there is a hero cap in Age II.
    Now, in Age I there was NO hero cap. So those who leveled heros the most had the advantage. So much so it was like level 800 attack heros with 2,000 attack or some crazy stuff like that going up against level 100 heros with 200-300 attack. Now that was a problem. Because the kids who stay online and farm 24x7 had the strongest heros, far stronger than the spenders. The spenders should have the strongest heros. People who spend money should have a slight advantage. Slight. But not insane advantage like Age I non-spenders had with crazy attack heros.

    All that being said, again, all Age II players can eventually reach Level 10 gear and 13+ stars on each gear. When that happens everyone will be more or less equal in terms of heros. The spenders will get there first. The non-spenders will need to farm and gem hunt for months and months, possible an entire year in order to get there. But at the end of the year you can be a serious contender. Also, in Age II (on the original Age II servers) there is no need to rush to be on top like Age I. You can take your time, 10 months, and build up 9 perfect cities, workshop gear research, the works. Then engage some strong players when you are ready.

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    they should make a debate part of the forums for you guys

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