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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost101 View Post
    You know that Evony never intended for people to have such massive army sizes until smart people started farming NPC's? This is actually a real PvP test. Lots of people, certain army size, enemies within 10 miles. Just deck it out with them. Learn how to play the game for real. All that farming? thats not the original purpose of the game. Start killing people with your troops, you don't need a massive map size to play the game. I was on Server 1 for over a year and my army was never bigger than maybe 2-3 mil troops, but I was respected, I knew how to use those troops, I knew how to play. Now when I'm on SS37, my army size doubles, trebles, and I don't really enjoy the game as much because all my enemies are so far from me due to massive map size.
    Ah, thanks Evony....for using my account that I put time and $ into for your "test". I don't think it matters what you intended. When I joined the game, farming was an accepted norm. I believe you will find a huge drop off in players and revenue after these ridiculously crowded server merges. I doubt most other businesses would make such changes and tell their customers what to do, if they cared about keeping them. You let the game get to this point of farming and huge armies and now you think we want to play just how you say and don't mind rules and game play changing as you see fit? And pay for that privilege? Unbelievable.
    Not to mention all the people who have countless accounts which keep their main account supplied, the bots, and all the other unfair cheats that go on -- which you obviously will never address. It isn't fun anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Choz View Post
    the bot where it makes troops etc should be illegal. bottin simply to farm should be legal IMO. you can say all the crap you want about it giving them advantage. no it doesnt. all it does is let a player who actually has a life have more cities . (which requires more farming) All you people who whine about botters having huge advantage are just a bunch of babies. anyone can be defeated. your just not a good player if you cant beat someone. idc if they bot or not. I used to and yea i got banned. i had tons of food and once i got banned i jus played longer and farmed longer. had same amount of food. so boo hoo. there is no advantage.

    once again all you people who whine about other ppl che@ting are just not good at this game.
    Your clearly deluded my friend.

    Botting gives clear advantages I have seen them myself and I will tell you what they are.

    Farming.

    Playing the correct way you can only send out 10 waves of farmers per city at anyone time. Thus meaning once they are back you will need to manually send them again. Now say you have a mass army your going to need to send them over and over again. So sometimes as I found out this could take a few hours. Depending on a few factors like npc locations and how much food your losing. Most players with mass armies need to hit hundreds of npcs to break even.

    Now throw in the bot.. This program can send those farmers out + more without the need for you to be at your pc. This means I can go bed, go out ect.. This also means my mass army is maintained without me actually have to do any hard work to keep it fed.

    It's unfair cause this bot does the work a honest player cannot do unless they can spend hours at their pc screen. Also using this bot now means I can hit more npc's further out, Gain more food and resources I can use to make my army even bigger.

    Troop building

    I've seen a website where a supposed bot builds troops for you, Oh so great I can go sleep and come back in the morning knowing full well my troops are baked and ready to be used all while I am asleep. Honest players cannot build troops away from the pc well not unless they do not input it themselves so why should any one else be able to use a program that does the clicks for you?

    Again it's unfair on the honest player.


    Praying/Disaster relief ect...

    Another bot I have seen in action that actually prays/dis relief for you every 15 mins, Aslong as the bot is running it can do it. So great I'll build a warehouse and let it do Disaster relief every 15 mins knowing full well I can leave it running and if attacked it's going to be a very long tedious process for the attacker to cap my city. So not only has he got to break my compact defence he's gotta fight my bot while I am away.

    Again it's another unfair advantage cause the attacker has to struggle alot more to cap the city he's attacking. Not only that the attacker might stop cause he will think I am online.
    Took me and a team mate over 2 hours to beat a botters city I had to clean it and then let the 450 attack hero run away, We did it and duel capped it. Soon as one of us Npc'd it we both lost it and the heros inside cause the next day the server had sorted the issue out.

    I actually spoke to the player in question he admitted that his brother left a bot running while he was away.


    Now for you to turn around and say it does not give an advantage and to say people are not good players just shows your lack of understanding on the issue. it would not surprise if you yourself bot.

    I do not blame players who use one, It cuts down hours on the game. But I do think it's unfair to use them against honest players and then go on that server thinking your god or what not for exploiting something evony cannot detect cause it's based on mouse clicks.

    Evony could maybe prevent it by checking to see how many times the same Npc as been hit by the same person and on what times it was hit. Most players know it takes 8 hours to fully regenerate resources on a npc, Yet npcs around my 1 city seem to be empty all the time I scout.
    Last edited by davedarave01uk; 12-18-2010 at 05:49 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davedarave01uk View Post
    Most players know it takes 8 hours to fully regenerate resources on a npc, Yet npcs around my 1 city seem to be empty all the time I scout.
    On my last server once I was farming NPC10s, I sent my ballista crews out to farm up to 2 hours away.

    There was one city that did farm one of our alliance members before he joined got extra special treatment. He would have had to send his crews out for an hour at a time as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mackay131 View Post
    On my last server once I was farming NPC10s, I sent my ballista crews out to farm up to 2 hours away.

    There was one city that did farm one of our alliance members before he joined got extra special treatment. He would have had to send his crews out for an hour at a time as well.
    Yes loads will do that and send them miles away but it's very rare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordMac123 View Post
    Suggested already.
    https://bbs.evony.com/showthread.php?t=160896 Done to death on several threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Choz View Post
    the bot where it makes troops etc should be illegal. bottin simply to farm should be legal IMO. you can say all the crap you want about it giving them advantage. no it doesnt. all it does is let a player who actually has a life have more cities . (which requires more farming) All you people who whine about botters having huge advantage are just a bunch of babies. anyone can be defeated. your just not a good player if you cant beat someone. idc if they bot or not. I used to and yea i got banned. i had tons of food and once i got banned i jus played longer and farmed longer. had same amount of food. so boo hoo. there is no advantage.

    once again all you people who whine about other ppl che@ting are just not good at this game.
    Evony is suppose to be about who's dedicated enough to play the game....the more u play the stronger you'll be....that is what set's others apart...sure call them nolifers cuz all they do is play Evony...but as their reward, they get to farm more and build more than ones that log in for 4hrs a day.....seeing that you approve of botting, I'm assuming that you bot yourself...and you are the one that isnt good at this game.

    There is an advantage to botting...the fact that u dont have to worry about farming is a huge advantage...the fact that u dont have to worry about building troops is an advantage....I see that u are retired in 3 servers..why is that?...not good enough??..or is that when u were banned for botting??...either way...how long do u think u will go without botting on the server you are in now?

    Are u also a trashtalker that hides behind a bot?
    Last edited by Calvertrevlac; 12-18-2010 at 08:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davedarave01uk View Post
    Your clearly deluded my friend.

    Botting gives clear advantages I have seen them myself and I will tell you what they are.

    Farming.

    Playing the correct way you can only send out 10 waves of farmers per city at anyone time. Thus meaning once they are back you will need to manually send them again. Now say you have a mass army your going to need to send them over and over again. So sometimes as I found out this could take a few hours. Depending on a few factors like npc locations and how much food your losing. Most players with mass armies need to hit hundreds of npcs to break even.

    Now throw in the bot.. This program can send those farmers out + more without the need for you to be at your pc. This means I can go bed, go out ect.. This also means my mass army is maintained without me actually have to do any hard work to keep it fed.

    It's unfair cause this bot does the work a honest player cannot do unless they can spend hours at their pc screen. Also using this bot now means I can hit more npc's further out, Gain more food and resources I can use to make my army even bigger.

    Troop building

    I've seen a website where a supposed bot builds troops for you, Oh so great I can go sleep and come back in the morning knowing full well my troops are baked and ready to be used all while I am asleep. Honest players cannot build troops away from the pc well not unless they do not input it themselves so why should any one else be able to use a program that does the clicks for you?

    Again it's unfair on the honest player.


    Praying/Disaster relief ect...

    Another bot I have seen in action that actually prays/dis relief for you every 15 mins, Aslong as the bot is running it can do it. So great I'll build a warehouse and let it do Disaster relief every 15 mins knowing full well I can leave it running and if attacked it's going to be a very long tedious process for the attacker to cap my city. So not only has he got to break my compact defence he's gotta fight my bot while I am away.

    Again it's another unfair advantage cause the attacker has to struggle alot more to cap the city he's attacking. Not only that the attacker might stop cause he will think I am online.
    Took me and a team mate over 2 hours to beat a botters city I had to clean it and then let the 450 attack hero run away, We did it and duel capped it. Soon as one of us Npc'd it we both lost it and the heros inside cause the next day the server had sorted the issue out.

    I actually spoke to the player in question he admitted that his brother left a bot running while he was away.


    Now for you to turn around and say it does not give an advantage and to say people are not good players just shows your lack of understanding on the issue. it would not surprise if you yourself bot.

    I do not blame players who use one, It cuts down hours on the game. But I do think it's unfair to use them against honest players and then go on that server thinking your god or what not for exploiting something evony cannot detect cause it's based on mouse clicks.

    Evony could maybe prevent it by checking to see how many times the same Npc as been hit by the same person and on what times it was hit. Most players know it takes 8 hours to fully regenerate resources on a npc, Yet npcs around my 1 city seem to be empty all the time I scout.

    read my post. i said farming bot should be legal. the other stuff is unfair. i agree with tht. and wrong about bot. if your online enough you can farm just as much as a bot. u may get one extra load. and i proved tht by having more food without a bot than i ever had with one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Calvertrevlac View Post
    Evony is suppose to be about who's dedicated enough to play the game....the more u play the stronger you'll be....that is what set's others apart...sure call them nolifers cuz all they do is play Evony...but as their reward, they get to farm more and build more than ones that log in for 4hrs a day.....seeing that you approve of botting, I'm assuming that you bot yourself...and you are the one that isnt good at this game.

    There is an advantage to botting...the fact that u dont have to worry about farming is a huge advantage...the fact that u dont have to worry about building troops is an advantage....I see that u are retired in 3 servers..why is that?...not good enough??..or is that when u were banned for botting??...either way...how long do u think u will go without botting on the server you are in now?

    Are u also a trashtalker that hides behind a bot?

    i dont bot anymore cuz of suspensions. and im undefeated for your information. and u seriously need to read my entire post. only thing i think is fair is farming bot.


    and one person being richer than another is same advantage. so quit whining
    Last edited by acer5200; 12-19-2010 at 12:41 AM. Reason: Double post
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    difference between a botter and spender,

    botter leaves his bot to work and attack/defend etc, he just comes on a bit every day and brags about it. Costs nothing but electricity. To make sure they don't get pwned back usually alliances that bot will employ strict secrecy and rules. There is a load of wanking they will do on forums etc to show off because the ultra strict alliance atmosphere does inhibit the social experience. Highly likely to get on wc too.

    Spender usually spends so he/she can get a bit ahead and be the talk of the alliance for the ppl they pwned, 'USUALLY' is online and chats to ppl. Also, much easier to combat because evony's speedups cost a bit and not that many ppl can buy it all, so they have to live with others and not be exclusive jerks.

    Now, neither are exclusive, there would be botters who spend and spenders who were doing badly that decide to bot. In the end, its resulting in a shrinking player pool, ppl just downsize to 1 city accts because they just don't care to play in the prohibitively hostile atmosphere. 1 city accts will seldom spend as much as multiple city accts. This I'm quite sure does hit evony in the pocket. And does dismay me that they don't crack down on it more effectively.

    even the most frugal players spend to buy ports etc. Botters will cause others to buy coins to holiday etc but that only goes on for so long, eventually ppl stop spending on a lost cause. Botters would also have a lot more 'battles' and farming and item hunting etc... they can generate more item drops, thats another loss of revenue for evony.

    Beats me why they can't do much about it. Its their friggin business, they own it, they aren't unknown to push somewhat unpopular things through. These bots are working on age II as well. Its a **** house.

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    Choz in response to you saying a farm bot should be allowed I can understand why you would want one.

    However that is upto Evony. The issue is Evony are not winning the war on macro readers/botters and they never will cause of lack of man power or the know how on how to detect them for that matter.

    However Evony is a cash cow they could make there own and sell it and allow it. Maybe Evony should make one server where it's allowed and all the people who ruin current servers with botting would maybe move but oh yea they will not move cause people are easier to kill on their current server.

    There is no winner and as per the post above player numbers dwindle which I can see they are doing already. But it's ok all these cheaters are only killing there own server. more fool them when it collapses.
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