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    Evony (the company) has two problems whose solutions are mutually exclusive or antagonistic:
    1) If ppl have spent coin on the game, then banking laws will block Evony from arbitrarily closing these accts because it would amount to corporate theft or consumer fraud. But it might also be the case that this extends to coin won from the wheel, which is a promise from Evony which cost the player nothing.
    2) Preservation of dead accts with coin on them is driving away active players who spend other coin. These then become inactive players. These then become dead accts with coin on them. The persistence of these dead accts then drives away active players who spend other coin. These then become inactive players .....

    So the problem is an external factor (the law) over which Evony has no control in combination with the very popularity of the game itself. Ghosts of players past are winning out over active players simply by hanging around. They walk away and dont give the game another thought.

    Maybe an idea might be for Evony to mail the login emails of dead accts once a week urging these ppl to return and clean up after themselves. Something like: We're glad you came. We're sorry you left. But before you forget about us, as a courtesy to your other players, could you please login once more to push ReSet or otherwise explicitly close your acct so we can take appropriate action?

    There is a city on ss46 which we recognise as the last city of the founder of our alliance. His last login was October of 2009. Eighteen months later and it is still here ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeeTea View Post
    Evony (the company) has two problems whose solutions are mutually exclusive or antagonistic:
    1) If ppl have spent coin on the game, then banking laws will block Evony from arbitrarily closing these accts because it would amount to corporate theft or consumer fraud. But it might also be the case that this extends to coin won from the wheel, which is a promise from Evony which cost the player nothing.
    2) Preservation of dead accts with coin on them is driving away active players who spend other coin. These then become inactive players. These then become dead accts with coin on them. The persistence of these dead accts then drives away active players who spend other coin. These then become inactive players .....

    So the problem is an external factor (the law) over which Evony has no control in combination with the very popularity of the game itself. Ghosts of players past are winning out over active players simply by hanging around. They walk away and dont give the game another thought.

    Maybe an idea might be for Evony to mail the login emails of dead accts once a week urging these ppl to return and clean up after themselves. Something like: We're glad you came. We're sorry you left. But before you forget about us, as a courtesy to your other players, could you please login once more to push ReSet or otherwise explicitly close your acct so we can take appropriate action?

    There is a city on ss46 which we recognise as the last city of the founder of our alliance. His last login was October of 2009. Eighteen months later and it is still here ....

    The inactive player is much less of a thorny issue than you state if further analysis is done.

    The user in most cases who has been inactive that long was on a server prior to the last server merges (in MOST cases), so there should be no expectation of their city even being in the same coords that they left it (and if there is they need therapy). Moving them off the board into a temporary area, and then only placing that city on the map if they login (to a random location) would make happier active players, free the map up more without clearing NPCs, and generally, give a better business model.

    The post I quote above I have a real hard time with---- those of us with ideas (so many of which have been posted, and mine being a repost of someone elses) are in many ways thwarted by the above that gives people an excuse to let things sit in the "Too Hard Box". C'mon folks! No apologists, but creative suggestions to SOLVE that have a better chance of being effective.

    (Emailing folks each week will work for a few, and then all of a sudden Evony is on Postini and other places blacklists!)
    Last edited by Imrah; 02-28-2011 at 11:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeeTea View Post
    Evony (the company) has two problems whose solutions are mutually exclusive or antagonistic:
    1) If ppl have spent coin on the game, then banking laws will block Evony from arbitrarily closing these accts because it would amount to corporate theft or consumer fraud. But it might also be the case that this extends to coin won from the wheel, which is a promise from Evony which cost the player nothing.
    2) Preservation of dead accts with coin on them is driving away active players who spend other coin. These then become inactive players. These then become dead accts with coin on them. The persistence of these dead accts then drives away active players who spend other coin. These then become inactive players .....

    So the problem is an external factor (the law) over which Evony has no control in combination with the very popularity of the game itself. Ghosts of players past are winning out over active players simply by hanging around. They walk away and dont give the game another thought.

    Maybe an idea might be for Evony to mail the login emails of dead accts once a week urging these ppl to return and clean up after themselves. Something like: We're glad you came. We're sorry you left. But before you forget about us, as a courtesy to your other players, could you please login once more to push ReSet or otherwise explicitly close your acct so we can take appropriate action?

    There is a city on ss46 which we recognise as the last city of the founder of our alliance. His last login was October of 2009. Eighteen months later and it is still here ....
    Evony DO infact mail inactive players... but to ask them to return. Much of this mail ends up either in spam filters, undelivered (given the amount of bogus email addresses used), or simply deleted. Reason? People who walked away from a server no longer care about that server.

    However, that being said, and in consideration of your comments about Evony not being able to close accounts due to bought-and-paid-for coin, there HAVE been a number of constructive suggestions that have (as to be expected) fallen not on deaf Evony ears, but on apathetic eyes. Frankly Evony don't care.

    There is the possibility for Evony Devs to "suspend" inactive accounts that have cents on them, holding them in limbo against a return by said account holder, at which time the cities are dropped at random, with Pioneer Teleports assigned for # of cities.

    I've seen this suggestion (props to whomever came up with it) many many times. I've not once seen a response from an Evony rep as to whether it's good/bad/ugly/under consideration. Imagine that.

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