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    Quote Originally Posted by Refugee. View Post
    Oh cruella, but you wont post how you wouldnt open your gates for any of my mech and how you had 7 pages of your alts spamming trash on me...theres no point in sitin there tryin to play an honor game with someone that dont want to trade fair hits.. you'll have urs coming for you soon enough.

    on a side note hes some from bware attacking me

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    Ella teachs them swell i think
    no I never opened my gates on the Mechs but either did you unless there was trans included. Pretty well how this game is played now though. People usually dont open unless they think thier troop loss is worth the resources they would lose if they stayed shut. The only trans you sent at me were with 1 single Scout Bomb. Seemed kinda a waste of 100k of your trans to kill about 20k of my scouts.

    Also those were not my alts spamming you. I was only on 1 account while fighting.

    And thx for posting Roys hits, I was wondering how he raised your honor so fast before letting me have his spot. Sure helped my heal rate, and made those hits I did on you even more effective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ellaranna View Post
    no I never opened my gates on the Mechs but either did you unless there was trans included. Pretty well how this game is played now though. People usually dont open unless they think thier troop loss is worth the resources they would lose if they stayed shut. The only trans you sent at me were with 1 single Scout Bomb. Seemed kinda a waste of 100k of your trans to kill about 20k of my scouts.

    Also those were not my alts spamming you. I was only on 1 account while fighting.

    And thx for posting Roys hits, I was wondering how he raised your honor so fast before letting me have his spot. Sure helped my heal rate, and made those hits I did on you even more effective.



    She did open gates on other attacks too. Funny how you tried to make it look like Ref ported to Roma, you moved in on her, she lost troops, dream truced and ported out.


    I remember like she ported in, a Bware ported in on her. She defended attacks, hit back. Bware ported out. THEN you ported in, didn't open your gates on her attacks, she did open on some - not all, since there were a lot of trash waves coming aswell.
    And yeah she made a mistake, lost her abatis and probably didn't realize it, so she lost some siege. Those were nice hits, indeed.



    But I'm going to say something else too. You said, you (the coalition) never helped Virtue because they haven't asked it and you (the coalition) had no idea they are in a bad situation.
    I assume it's the same deal with Phraxure? Coaltion had no idea Phraxure needed help. (Because leadership haven't asked it? because colition is not on the forum and can't see it? ) Sorry, I can't belive that.

    Their state was locked. I'm 100% sure they were ready to move out npcs or cities next to us (or next to other reds). I was in LowerLorraine for more than a week with 3 cities. And what did you do? No, you didn't even try to hit our war cities there. All you do is random porting and trying to plunder resources for yourself. Or when there is a red in your state, you will port in on them. Yes, you did hit me. You were waiting till I'm offline and then you hit my FARM city.

    I guess you want to see all the hits:

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    There was some nice mech hits, but yeah, I wasn't on.

    Few months ago you did help others, but you don't anymore. What's ok, but you shouldn't pretend it otherwise.
    Same thing happened with Phraxure what happened with Virtue. NOONE came to help them.

    Oh and when we hit your WAR city, you tried to defend in the beginning, but when you were down to 100k ballistas, you haven't opened gates on anything. Not even on transporters. In total over 1 million transporters landed on your war city while you were on. Yeah you got mostly stone. So what's the point? Build millions of troops, put stone in our cities and just close gates?

    And I just see it in our war reports, we had your city down to 12 loyalty during the night (transporters landed, too). Gates were closed of course.

    My point with this post is that the coalition is DEAD. That's fine if you defend your state only or when you attack out of your state you are just random porting, hitting farm cities, but why would you (or anyone else in the "coalition") talk about coalition? There is no coalition anymore.

    At least we have plans, we are going after an alliance.. sure, it's harder. You actually need more than 2-3 people to do it and you need people to stay in those states to put pressure on reds. Would be easier to random port and try to get lucky and come to forums to tell how you plundered billions of resources. Yeah, hell we have resoruces, not only stone.

    Maybe we don't plunder that much food / lumber / iron as you do, but we kill alliances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ellaranna View Post
    Refugee of Virtue_230 decided to come play in ROM
    and no, V230 is not playing in Roma yet.. only a few people do. We will play there on next week.
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    think you have things a bit mixed up. Roy did not port in to fight Refugee, he had ported there the night before to hit LordRioux, who truced on him. about the time Roiux Truce was to end he ported out and Refugee ported in. Roy couldnt stay so sent a few attacks and ported out. So I ported in.

    And in regards to your Farm city. I didnt port in wait for you to be offline and attack. I had ported in the day before and hit chica but noone cared enough to make me leave and the next day I noticed you were nearby so took an NPC next to you. Didnt matter to me if you were online or off (but looking at above reports is sure looks like someone was at least online healing for you) and even when someone did log in for you and started playing with gates I didnt stop. fight went till they ported your city. attacks would have gone much better if lag hadnt got so bad right after I sent the first wave. And if I really only hit you to come on here and brag about it, why didnt I post sooner? I easily could have came here bragging that I got the Host of our Biggest enemy to port away but didnt. These forums really dont mean anything and I usually only come to them when lag is to bad to do anything in game or if I am for some other reason not able to play.

    and in regards to when you had all those cities in ROM a few weeks back and I didnt open gates. when you say I got down to 100k balls and wouldnt open. (I wasnt down to 100k balls for 1 thing. I had alot more not to far away. but yes the first wave after that I did purposely keep closed cause I wasnt ready, the second wave I did get city ready for attacks but lag picked up and I couldnt open em. But no, I dont collect stone just so when I dont open thats what is taken. Ive never bought stone in my life. all the stone I have in my cities I have gotten from hitting reds. yes it does help when attacked but is not what I relie on for defence.

    and I do still go help alliances. I ported in to help Poison about a week ago when someone ported in on them. dont really have many blues anymore to help though and Phrax made us believe that all thier alliances were very active which we now know is not the case.

    And as far as Phrax goes. you only hit them for 2 weeks. really only 1 weekend that was anything to worry about, and I did offer to port in and help Zen. even though we had raiders of our own in ROM. My alliance was doing a good job against them and I could have ported to help, but she must not have wanted me to cause she didnt accept my offer.

    They had many options they could have taken. with 4 alliances they should easily have been able to regroup into at least 1 that was all actives, but instead took the easy way out and choose the option where they didnt need to fight.

    And about last night. I got booted out of game shortly before swags showed up and started attacking me and took over an hour from when he started attacks to when I could log back in. so yeah he got my cities loy down but thats all he did. When I finally did log in I sent attacks at him, and what did he do? He ported away on me.

    And you can go ahead and kill alliances if you want. If your goal is to have the whole server blue you are well on your way. wont be much fun to only be able to attack a couple alliances though. I dont play that way. We turned down many alliances that wanted to be blue, and still will, cause I dont just take in any blues, I like the color red. always have and always will. This game is a war game and fighting is what I do best.

    and as far as coalition goes. we are not dead. we may have shrunk, but are in no way dead. And it cant die unless all alliances in it also die. And an alliance can only die if the people that run it let it die. I know the people in the remaining alliances very well and am pretty sure they arent gonna give up as easily as others did. I know for a fact that there is nothing you or any other alliance can do to kill Silver. We have an amazing group of people and although we are not huge like yours all of my members are dedicated to us and will use the last or their troops and resources to help another. afterall thats what troops are made for. they are built to die. and will continue to be built for that cause.

    oh and 1 last thing, we also have plans and they have been going very well. guessing that since you dont know what we have been up to you dont talk very much to some of your blues.
    Last edited by ellaranna; 07-06-2011 at 01:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ellaranna View Post
    think you have things a bit mixed up. Roy did not port in to fight Refugee, he had ported there the night before to hit LordRioux, who truced on him. about the time Roiux Truce was to end he ported out and Refugee ported in. Roy couldnt stay so sent a few attacks and ported out. So I ported in.

    And in regards to your Farm city. I didnt port in wait for you to be offline and attack. I had ported in the day before and hit chica but noone cared enough to make me leave and the next day I noticed you were nearby so took an NPC next to you. Didnt matter to me if you were online of off and even when someone did log in for you I didnt stop. attacks would have gone much better if lag hadnt go so bad right after I sent the first wave.

    and in regards to when you had all those cities in ROM a few weeks back and I didnt open gates. when you say I got down to 100k balls and wouldnt open. (I wasnt down to 100k balls for 1 thing. I had alot more not to far away. but yes the first wave after that I did purposely keep closed cause I wasnt ready, the second wave I did get city ready for attacks but lag picked up and I couldnt open em. But no, I dont collect stone just so when I dont open thats what is taken. Ive never bought stone in my life. all the stone I have in my cities I have gotten from hitting reds. yes it does help when attacked but is not what I relie on for defence.

    And as far as Phrax goes. you only hit them for 2 weeks. really only 1 weekend that was anything to worry about, and I did offer to port in and help Zen. even though we had raiders of our own in ROM. My alliance was doing a good job against them and I could have ported to help, but she must not have wanted me to cause she didnt accept my offer.

    And about last night. I got booted out of game shortly before swags showed up and started attacking me and took over an hour from when he started attacks to when I could log back in. so yeah he got my cities loy down but thats all he did. When I finally did log in I sent attacks at him, and what did he do? He ported away on me.

    And you can go ahead and kill alliances you want. If your goal is to have the whole server blue you are well on your way. wont be much fun to only be able to attack a couple alliances, I dont play that way. We turned down many alliances that wanted to be blue, but I dont just take in blues, I like the color red. always have and always will. This game is a war game and fighting is what I do best.

    and as far as coalition goes. we are not dead. we may have shrunk, but are in no way dead. And it cant die unless all alliances in it also die. An an alliance can only die if the people that run it let it die. I know the people in the remaining alliances very well and am pretty sure they arent gonna give up as easily as others did. I know for a fact that there is nothing you or any other alliance can do to kill Silver. We have an amazing group of people and although we are not huge like yours all of my members are dedicated to us and will use the last or their troops and resources to help another. afterall thats what troops are made for. they are built to die. and will continue to be built for that cause.

    To attack in this lag is easier than to defend. You can always recall and try to time again, but you can't do that while you are defending.

    Burgundy wasn't locked and most of time you don't stay for more than 1 or 2 days, why bother?

    As far as the whole server going blue and you don't play that game. Are you serious? You guys came with a whole coalition. Blue'd your old server and even blue'd couple of alliances from this server. That's not my problem that most of them haven't survived and now you are out of blues.

    And even the heroes. Coalition had all the top heroes in the beginning of this server. But yeah, now you are making it like we always had the whole server blue and we were hitting a very few alliances.


    How many alliances declared on us or on LETHAL, DESTROY, ZULU? (ZULU who was part of the coalition, but they didn't want to follow all wars when they had reds in their own state, that's why they got declared on)

    uhm, I can tell you.. Poison, Aries (there were at least 3 of them), Virtue, R0HAN (Venom), PHRAXURE and of course Silver, BWARE were already red.
    I doubt any of these alliances is blue for us.

    The best players of Aries joined LETHAL. (rest went to the coalitoin)
    Virtue - their best players joined us. (rest went to the coalition)
    R0HAN - joined LETHAL or PHRAXURE.

    PHRAXURE disbanding and creating a new alliance.

    and I think Paragon was part of the coaliton or sister of a coalition alliance. They joined us and Zulu.

    Oh yes, and there was Ronin too. They disbanded when LETHAL hit them.

    So what should we do? When an alliance gives it up, should we tell them, no you can't join us, we will hit you until you quit?
    If their best players decide to join us, they are welcome here. We will go for the next coalition alliance.

    as far as our blues goes.. we are not a coalition. There are a few big differences between blues and coalition.
    We can make our own decisions, we don't have to have the same diplomacy. We got blues who are fighting each other. So? That's their decision. You know how much fun to play when you don't have to "vote" about every small step?
    Even blues are different. There are blues I would port to help them anytime. There are blues who are blue because maybe an other blue asked us to set them. Not sure I would port to help them if I'm busy with other things.

    However coalition is a BIG GROUP. Different story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by l4dyh4wk View Post

    Server Alliance Stats.. Pre-WOW




    Here Ronin was already losing.. you can see it on the amount of their cities. But this is from somewhere the beginning of this server.

    At this point Zulu was part of the coalition too. You had 6 alliances blue (+ you were the 7th) in the top 10. Weird to see that when you prefer reds.
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    Zulu was never part of coalition. yes we had them Blue at merge but never did before merge. and they in no way helped us fight any reds so there was no reason to keep them blue. Ronin had nothing to do with us and either did paragon. Coalition was Venom, Aries, Virtue, Silver, BWARE and Poison. later Phrax was added. so at merge that was only 4 coalition alliances in top 10. if you include zulu (since they were blue) that would be 5 blues in top 10.

    You on the other hand Blued every alliance that was in your home state just so you wouldnt have to fight at home. were as we turned every alliance in ROM red including 4 of your subs (well they were your subs then) you seem to have turned your back on them just like you did when we forced them out of ROM.

    And we dont Vote on every little thing. only big issues were voted on. At one time we didnt have to vote on anything cause we all wanted the same things. but still talked and made sure we were on the same page. But if an alliance is gonna be blue to me then I want to be able to help them and if they are fighting another blue I cant, which means 1 of the alliances probably shouldnt be blue. Besides whats the point in being Blue if you cant help each other? and having different diplomacy means that often you cant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ellaranna View Post
    Zulu was never part of coalition. yes we had them Blue at merge but never did before merge. and they in no way helped us fight any reds so there was no reason to keep them blue.
    So I think you do understand the differences between blues and coalition. We got blues, we are not a part of coalition. But we don't expect all of our blues to fight all of our reds.


    Quote Originally Posted by ellaranna View Post
    Ronin had nothing to do with us and either did paragon. Coalition was Venom, Aries, Virtue, Silver, BWARE and Poison. later Phrax was added. so at merge that was only 4 coalition alliances in top 10. if you include zulu (since they were blue) that would be 5 blues in top 10.
    and we had one blue from the top 10. Deady_230

    Quote Originally Posted by ellaranna View Post
    You on the other hand Blued every alliance that was in your home state just so you wouldnt have to fight at home. were as we turned every alliance in ROM red including 4 of your subs (well they were your subs then) you seem to have turned your back on them just like you did when we forced them out of ROM.
    not true. we fought 7 alliances in Lombardy. we stopped those wars when they agreed to leave Lombardy. But meanwhile they became one of our neutral's sisters and wanted to stay. We started to talk and had ceasefire. The end was they ported half of their cities out of Lombardy. That's when we went blue.

    We never had 4 subs. And we did go to help them, stayed with a couple of cities in Roma. You couldn't move us out. but if my subs want the state for themself, they need to fight too. We didn't want the state for ourself, we can't just sit there with war cities for weeks. we hit silver, bware, asked our subs to keep pressure on you guys. Seems like they weren't able to do it. So we gave them a state. or well.. a bit more than a half state. They got that from us, without fighting for it. If you call that turning our back on them, then do it.
    They are not our subs anymore, since they don't really fight our wars, but that doesn't mean we will do what you did to Zulu - declare on them. They are still blue.

    Quote Originally Posted by ellaranna View Post
    But if an alliance is gonna be blue to me then I want to be able to help them and if they are fighting another blue I cant, which means 1 of the alliances probably shouldnt be blue. Besides whats the point in being Blue if you cant help each other? and having different diplomacy means that often you cant.
    because you can only think about 2 sided server.
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    Ella, you can't chastise Barbi for using strategy One thing I've found is that being in Virtue_230 has been much more like Catalyst was in it's better days, and the brotherhood with Zulu, then any relations we ever had with the 'Coalition'. As you know I have always had good feelings towards Silver, it was just a shame that no one could stand up to the leaders of the Coalition except Zulu.

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    Yes there is a difference between Blues and coaltion. but we dont typically have Blues that are not coaltion. sometimes an exception is made but not often. Pretty sure you havent forgotten that you to were also Blue to us. Till you had your Subs anulle and start taking flats in our state to help our reds move in. Is that typically what you do to your blues?

    We could have killed zulu as well as many other alliances last server but didnt. We already had too many blues and didnt need anymore so we made many agreements with them that would allow them to keep playing and be red. then Merge happened and we agreed to put them blue on this server if they helped us which they didnt. Maybe if things had been different and Gordon had been around at that time they may not have been put red. Gordon is one of the most honest and trustworthy people I know in Evony, but Homer was the one running things at that time in Zulu and he had already Backstabbed us shortly after last merge when SIN declared on BWARE. Also at that time Zhay was trying to get Phrax to join us and Phrax requested that we put them red to show we were willing to help them.

    You did have 4 Subs Virtual, Virtuous, VirtuouZ and EazyCo. Those were confimed by your Sub Hosts to all be Subs. and you never really did help them. Yeah you ported a city in every once in a while and might have sent an attack or 2 every few days but in no way helped them try and keep the state. You were not fighting anyone else for part of that as well and still didnt try very hard.

    No I see more then a 2 sided server, but as I said I like reds and I also like to help my blues which cant happen easily if diplo is different.

    For examply last server we made an agreement with our reds that we would not dogpile them. so we agreed to thier request to only have 1 coaltion alliance attacking each of them at a time and the rest to have ceasefires. It didnt last long, as merge happened shortly after but during that time it limited Silver and BWAREs ability to play together. and made it very difficult for us both. We would see a friend (sometimes even a RL friend or relative) fighting and couldnt help because we had a ceasefire with who they were fighting. But most our reds were on the verge of quiting and and without reds there is no point in playing, so we made this agreement to keep them from leaving. As many were friends even though they were red.

    After that we agreed to never have different diplomacy as it causes to many issues. It really does suck to have an allie ask for help and telling them you cant due to a ceasefire.
    Last edited by ellaranna; 07-06-2011 at 03:21 PM.

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