Quote Originally Posted by ellaranna View Post
Zulu was never part of coalition. yes we had them Blue at merge but never did before merge. and they in no way helped us fight any reds so there was no reason to keep them blue.
So I think you do understand the differences between blues and coalition. We got blues, we are not a part of coalition. But we don't expect all of our blues to fight all of our reds.


Quote Originally Posted by ellaranna View Post
Ronin had nothing to do with us and either did paragon. Coalition was Venom, Aries, Virtue, Silver, BWARE and Poison. later Phrax was added. so at merge that was only 4 coalition alliances in top 10. if you include zulu (since they were blue) that would be 5 blues in top 10.
and we had one blue from the top 10. Deady_230

Quote Originally Posted by ellaranna View Post
You on the other hand Blued every alliance that was in your home state just so you wouldnt have to fight at home. were as we turned every alliance in ROM red including 4 of your subs (well they were your subs then) you seem to have turned your back on them just like you did when we forced them out of ROM.
not true. we fought 7 alliances in Lombardy. we stopped those wars when they agreed to leave Lombardy. But meanwhile they became one of our neutral's sisters and wanted to stay. We started to talk and had ceasefire. The end was they ported half of their cities out of Lombardy. That's when we went blue.

We never had 4 subs. And we did go to help them, stayed with a couple of cities in Roma. You couldn't move us out. but if my subs want the state for themself, they need to fight too. We didn't want the state for ourself, we can't just sit there with war cities for weeks. we hit silver, bware, asked our subs to keep pressure on you guys. Seems like they weren't able to do it. So we gave them a state. or well.. a bit more than a half state. They got that from us, without fighting for it. If you call that turning our back on them, then do it.
They are not our subs anymore, since they don't really fight our wars, but that doesn't mean we will do what you did to Zulu - declare on them. They are still blue.

Quote Originally Posted by ellaranna View Post
But if an alliance is gonna be blue to me then I want to be able to help them and if they are fighting another blue I cant, which means 1 of the alliances probably shouldnt be blue. Besides whats the point in being Blue if you cant help each other? and having different diplomacy means that often you cant.
because you can only think about 2 sided server.