How To Capture NORMAL Player cities on Colonize ONLY servers

**AeroAgg06** · 02-21-2011, 02:04 PM

Comfort still raises loy faster than it can drop
Speeches aren't even needed if someone will always be on

**Abdul Haamar** · 02-21-2011, 03:10 PM

Wow, very...intuitive
Well done and thanks for sharing. Now more people will have to worry about getting city capped, and not only colonized (.

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**Satan** · 02-21-2011, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by AeroAgg06

Comfort still raises loy faster than it can drop
Speeches aren't even needed if someone will always be on

Which is why I'd go further and say don't let Loy slow drop until Loyalty 5. That way you can at least get Loyalty to 5 before anyone can even log onto the account.

**chiasm** · 02-21-2011, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by Satan

Which is why I'd go further and say don't let Loy slow drop until Loyalty 5. That way you can at least get Loyalty to 5 before anyone can even log onto the account.

now that is one of the best solutions to the problem i've seen yet!

**japanpimp** · 02-21-2011, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by AeroAgg06

I'm saying generally the 00.01% of the people who bother to learn the battle mechanics that many of us have openy shared with the community are the same people who own most 16-18.

If others understood those mechanics instead of sending archers layered with workers/wars/scouts/pikes/swords/cav/phrax/rams thinking that the more layers you send = better kill rate, clearing an enemy HC would no longer be so hard

The hard part is not letting someone else log on their account and comfort/text... This is not an HC mechanic problem, it is a account share problem

I do not think that most of the skilled players have the higher level HC's. A big spending dominant alliance caps the HC's and then gives them away to it's members. And often times those members do not have intimate knowledge of battle mechanics. So they just pack them full of troops and keep packing and packing. But perhaps the amount of troops and battle mechanics are not a big of problem as I make them to be. Perhaps if account sharing was stopped then they would trade hands.

Originally Posted by Satan

Account sharing is almost 100% impossible to get rid of. I'm sure know that I've said it, either Japanpimp or Neko Lord will go into IP address crap and make a huge wall of text, but I digress.

Something Evony CAN do, is get rid of speech texts. Very simple and would make it very hard to Bashbro your cities.

Satan, i never ever suggested IP stuff to stop account sharing. I have only explained how it won't work.

In order to impede account sharing we need to create an environment that takes most advantages away from account sharing and at the same time gives all players equal opportunities to attack and defend. The reason players share accounts is to guard a city 24x7. Well, in order to stop that we need to force all players to go offline for 6 hours per day. They can set a sleep window to happen at any time during the day. The window can be set to happen when they go to work/school/sleep/etc..
While they are "offline" the only things they can do is buy items and view reports and chat. That's it. If their city is under attack then they need a supportive alliance to reinforce their embassy while they are "offline" just as Evony originally intended.

Everyone wants the reward but nobody wants the risk. So force the risk/reward ratio so players cannot get around the risk

**AeroAgg06** · 02-21-2011, 10:50 PM

biggest problem i have with your sleep window idea is that i give my phone number to a few alliance members to call me if im getting hit hard. They wake me up and i come fight myself. I see nothing wrong with that.

Now if im being hit 24/7 by a coordinated alliance, i WILL have to sleep eventually, but the phone call can at least delay them a bit

but ya, biggest prob is definitely account sharing... catch the person offline, even if he account shares, and camp out a coordinated attack with your alliance at they wont see it hitting until their city is cleaned out

**japanpimp** · 02-21-2011, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by AeroAgg06

biggest problem i have with your sleep window idea is that i give my phone number to a few alliance members to call me if im getting hit hard. They wake me up and i come fight myself. I see nothing wrong with that.

Now if im being hit 24/7 by a coordinated alliance, i WILL have to sleep eventually, but the phone call can at least delay them a bit

but ya, biggest prob is definitely account sharing... catch the person offline, even if he account shares, and camp out a coordinated attack with your alliance at they wont see it hitting until their city is cleaned out

*business meeting starts*
"So, to get things started I wanted to open with..."
*phone vibrates*
"Um, sorry guys, I need to run. I'll be back in 2 hours as soon as they stop attacking my city..."

"Ok class, let's open our text books to page...."
*phone vibrates*
"I gotta go to the bathroom..."
*2 hours later "bathroom break" still not over*

*3am, phone rings*
"Dude! You are under attack!!"
*player wakes up and fights off attack for next hour*
*player goes back to sleep*
*Phone rings again*
"Dude, you are under attack, again!!!"
*player wakes up again, fight off attack for next hour*

You know, the above scenarios are extremely rare exceptions. I am willing to bet that 99.9% of players would not do that. Rather, they give their account info to someone.
Remember, you can set your sleep window to anytime during the day.
Also keep in mind that everyone would have to set sleep windows as well for various times. So you can indeed get revenge if your alliance did not reinforce you during the window and your city got capped. You can take it back much easier knowing that the new owner will be "offline" for 6 hours too.
Would you be willing to compromise on the idea if you knew it would put a huge dent in account sharing and give you equal opportunity to retaliate?