Yet another time travel discussion

[Skirata]

It's a sacrifice I'm willing to make.

But is it a sacrifice I am willing to make?

[Rota]

But is it a sacrifice I am willing to make?

I don't see how that is relevant to Bree's decision.

[Bree Fletcher]

But is it a sacrifice I am willing to make?

That isn't what matters.

[Skirata]

I don't see how that is relevant to Bree's decision.

It's relevant if she wants me to move science ahead.

That isn't what matters.

O rly nao?

[DeSalvionjr]

We all know that time travel forward can be achieved with simple speed. You can travel the speed of light for mere moments, and travel days into the future. The simple laws of relativity tell us this, and have been proven out. Travelers that spend many, many hours in jets flying hundreds of miles per hour will find their watches are just barely ahead of the clocks in the time zone they left from. They have travelled forward in time, even if it is by a miniscule amount.

In various movies and TV shows and comics, there are beings who possess super speed. The effect to show this speed is to freeze frame the world around them, to show the person getting tons of tasks done in the blink of an eye. They zoom around the area and do all sorts of stuff, while everyone is frozen in place.

If they are traveling super fast, then shouldn't the world around them move exponentially faster as they move forward through time? The world around them should not look like someone hit the pause button. It should look like someone hit the fast forward button.

Maybe their power is not super speed, but something that would effectively pause the world around them. What power could freeze time relative to the person? Super slow? Would moving infinitesimally slow make the world around you pause, according to relativity? Like a power that put your body in a state of nearly "stasis" but with the power to move.

Is there a threshold? Would moving faster make the world around you seem to slow down to a point, but after a threshold speed, the time travel forward would become obvious and things would speed up.


Anyway... I saw a movie where a hero did a bunch of stuff in a fraction of a second because of his super speed. It got me to thinking, and that train of thought lead me to uncover this little paradox. Super speed would not actually allow you to get things done faster, since going fast would speed up the world around you, relatively.

when a cheeta runs past you you dont become faster... plus... if someone is going super speed.. and everyone else is.. it would really be super speed anyways, at least in comparison to current surroundings...

oh, and about those watches on a jet plane... the amount of force on them due to the speed of the plane may be manipulating the operating speed of the watches by a wee bit...
Either way, neat observation.... I wouldnt of thought of that possibility at all given the provided data..

[Rota]

when a cheeta runs past you you dont become faster... plus... if someone is going super speed.. and everyone else is.. it would really be super speed anyways, at least in comparison to current surroundings...

I should become slightly faster, from the perspective of the cheetah. Of course, I don't speed up from my perspective.

[BigNorr]

need to sit down and think about this one for a minute lol

[Boleslav]

I am going to think about this and post my idea yesterday.

[DeSalvionjr]

I should become slightly faster, from the perspective of the cheetah. Of course, I don't speed up from my perspective.

yeah, because your position in comparison to his position (or distance between the two entities) is constantly changing at a rapid pace.... creating the illusion of movement... if you are moving too, instead of being a static point then it would become exponentially more rapidly changing than both or one of the entities being static (when the cheeta is the perspective, basepoint, (0,0) point, etc...)

I hope we are still on the same page?

[Bree Fletcher]

yeah, because your position in comparison to his position (or distance between the two entities) is constantly changing at a rapid pace.... creating the illusion of movement(when the cheeta is the perspective, basepoint, (0,0) point, etc...)

Oh, that one's been gone around in circles about. The answer I got when I asked it once, was that it came down to which was that it came down to which was accelerating, which was experiencing an increase in energy, etc.