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    I find it funny how Thalin says to go check out the feedback site to JP and Almira, who are two of the most active people on the feedback site. Just an interesting note.

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    jp your argument about losing citys is a bad one, my brother who plays on ss54 has had 4 of his citys underseige from deathinc, the top alliance, for the last 2-3 days, they capped lv10 npc's 1 mile from his citys and proceeded pumeling him, now he has been losing troops at a steady rate but i'm sure he is killing a load of thiers too, he is having a battle, defending 4 citys at once, he has not lost one yet, he hits truce at night and regroups his forces and makes some more troops, in the morning he ready to rock again. now if there was a cap on troops or some kind of offline window he would of lost those 4 citys...my bro does not cheat/acc share/bot or whatever else excuse your using to put forward these silly game play changes. how would it be fair to him to take away his ability to defend his citys? yes you say have the alliance reinforce.....ha ha ha, dude, these guys in alliances like DeathInc will have reduced your citys to rubble before your mates have even thought of the word rein. my bro has never lost a city in age1 (oh yes he sleeps 8 hrs a night), there have been lots of people to try and break him though, put a "window" in where he cant defend and YES guess what?? he will lose citys all the time, taking away the ability to use the skills that he has learned while playing the game.

    jp get yourself a HC on your server, build it up, fill it with troops, let yourself be a victim of a 3 man crew battering down your gates. you say you learned to play this game from a colonized position but that has gave you a warped sense of how it should be played. now learn to play from a position where you can have a city taken from you, look at evony through the eyes of everyone that disagrees with your ideas. then and only then may you come to understand that some of your suggestions will just not work.

    ps....i take it that since your still pushing your "sleep window" idea that you have not yet ousted the atlantis owners on na4 yet?

    edit: you may say about my bro that most people cant play that much....well he plays how he can, if he was smaller (and less cocky) he would never be in this position. he is not here whining about the instant catapult heros he up against right now because the odds favour the attacker....no he is enjoying his battle and moaning about the advantage the attackers have would just be sour grapes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by japanpimp View Post
    Capping 10's is a great idea. I would do that if I ever decided to start an account on another Na1-19 server. But you know what? When I started Na4 last year in April I was new to the game. I didn't even know that when I capped a NPC it came loaded with buildings and resource fields at the same level of the NPC. If I knew that from day 1 then I would have done it. Now, imagine how many other players totally new to the game go through the same thing I went through? Problem was.... I had already invested so much time and money into my cities that it did not make sense to abandon them and capture 10's.
    As for your comment on HC's. Exactly. It is way too easy to load them up with insane troop numbers and just sit back and be invincible and/or account share.


    so because u didnt spend anytime learning the game, or readin forums game should change. you are new to the game. still after this long u are still new. find a skilled player, sit down as i have seen offers to teach you. been playing for a long while myself and im still learning. but on any server i have played never lost a city until i quit said server.

    before u suggest drastic changes to the game, learn it, then suggest ways to enhance the game. til then your points really have no basis of game knowledge

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    Quote Originally Posted by japanpimp View Post
    Capping 10's is a great idea. I would do that if I ever decided to start an account on another Na1-19 server. But you know what? When I started Na4 last year in April I was new to the game. I didn't even know that when I capped a NPC it came loaded with buildings and resource fields at the same level of the NPC. If I knew that from day 1 then I would have done it. Now, imagine how many other players totally new to the game go through the same thing I went through? Problem was.... I had already invested so much time and money into my cities that it did not make sense to abandon them and capture 10's.
    As for your comment on HC's. Exactly. It is way too easy to load them up with insane troop numbers and just sit back and be invincible and/or account share.
    Fair enuf, and congrats for ignoring the emotive part of my reply lol

    Yeah, when I started, I didnt know about 10s either. It was very painful to dump good cities to grab HCs etc

    I didnt play AgeI

    Particularly on the older servers, it is very hard to dump cities with good colonies. Alot of work to take them back

    After dumping a few tho, I came to believe that its about having 2-3 good regular cities & the rest largely disposable.

    There will still be work involved upping the rez fields & barracks on 10s. At the same time tho, I find little difference between upgrading 1 city or multiple at the same time. I try to upgrade cities in batches to reduce the workload.

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    Quote Originally Posted by japanpimp View Post
    As for your comment on HC's. Exactly. It is way too easy to load them up with insane troop numbers and just sit back and be invincible and/or account share.
    Im with you on the stagnant nature of HC ownership being a huge problem in Evony.

    Account sharing is clearly an area of little to zero concern for the Evony staff. It cant be stated in any kinder way.

    Also, transferring HC ownership. A new 24 hr truce each time on the HC.

    Both are obvious exploits. Evony does nothing. Ever it appears.

    Have to continue though, that stagnant HCs are far worse in colonize-only. In attack servers, they can be more effectively pressured.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Igroki View Post
    Im with you on the stagnant nature of HC ownership being a huge problem in Evony.

    Account sharing is clearly an area of little to zero concern for the Evony staff. It cant be stated in any kinder way.

    Also, transferring HC ownership. A new 24 hr truce each time on the HC.

    Both are obvious exploits. Evony does nothing. Ever it appears.

    Have to continue though, that stagnant HCs are far worse in colonize-only. In attack servers, they can be more effectively pressured.
    Yeah, on Na1-19 HC's never go offline because the accounts are always shared. And since HC's are the only capturable cities on Na1-19 the problem is magnified. It's "account share to keep your HC or lose it."I strongly think Evony needs to force HC owners to schedule a time to go offline for 6 hours per day. If they do not then there will always be account sharing. The 6 hour window would really level the field whenit comes to HC's on colonize only servers. Right now the account sharing is just out of control on Na1-19 HC's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Beast View Post
    Lol, we seem to have a great deal in common. ONly games I played on my computer, was actual PC games like; Civ, RTW, etc.

    My wife started playing Evony, thinking it was a soft core game, and merely used for chat room purposes. I looked at it, and said " Meh, poor mans Civ. Boy we was both wrong. The game proved too much for her, and I started playing, and havent stopped.

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    And so we had a great system at the start, playing my Mega Drive all night at home, and Evony through all my lectures.

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    so account sharing is out of control... ok, come back and kill there troops day after day, you will have the upper hand each time if you have already cleared out the hc.

    also forcing players to go offline is a terrible idea, what if someone leaves there computer on and evony running while they go to work forgetting about it, then they come back to find they have been forced off evony, and most likely are under attack, and they have no way to help themselves.

    a simple timer on speech texts will fix the problem, and one day i hope evony will do this, but any other way of preventing the advantage of account sharing is just unfair to the players who fight a honest fight, and we should not be punished for a small group of players who are account sharing.

    and i doubt very much that its out of control, perhaps you should fight more alliances you will most likely find many don't cheat.

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    JP did it ever occur to you that maybe... just maybe not everyone is account sharing? that maybe some players (myself included) give the members of their alliance their phone numbers so if they get hit they can be called to log in?

    as for it being too easy to load up HCs with troops... the rest of us should not be penalized because you can't out produce us and because you haven't taken the time to learn how to break down a defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by viorab View Post
    also forcing players to go offline is a terrible idea, what if someone leaves there computer on and evony running while they go to work forgetting about it, then they come back to find they have been forced off evony, and most likely are under attack, and they have no way to help themselves.
    On colonize only servers account sharing is a big problem because only HC's can be captured. Forcing players to go offline for 6 hours per day is plenty fair. The rule will apply to ALL players. So everyone will have the same conditions. As for going to work and coming back to find your city under attack, etc.. That is exactly how it works. When you are at work/school/sleep you are usually away for more than 6 hours, right? So what do you do then? Simple, you rely on your alliance to reinforce your embassy. What you should NOT do is rely on Joe Bob to login to your account and protect the HC. Problem is, that happens all too often.

    Quote Originally Posted by chiasm View Post
    JP did it ever occur to you that maybe... just maybe not everyone is account sharing? that maybe some players (myself included) give the members of their alliance their phone numbers so if they get hit they can be called to log in?

    as for it being too easy to load up HCs with troops... the rest of us should not be penalized because you can't out produce us and because you haven't taken the time to learn how to break down a defense.
    True, not everyone account shares. But most key HC owners do. That is a fact. Now, the spirit of this game is that players will be sleeping/working/school for more than 6 hours per day. And during those times the player must rely on their alliance to hold their cities by way of embassy reinforcement, period. Now, MOST humans sleep between 6-8 hours. Some are insomniacs. So it only makes sense that players will set their sleep windows for when they normally sleep, not when they work/school. So it really won't impact honest players at all since the vast majority of normal people sleep at night. The main group of players that WILL have a problem with a forced sleep window are the account sharers,period. Very few normal players should have a problem with it. Why? Because people sleep. Now, the player can set their sleep window for anytime during the day, totally flexible. It will take most all benefit away from account sharing. All players can rest assured that for at least 6 hours per day NOBODY can use account sharing to hold a city but must use the embassy as Evony intended. Nothing wrong with that.
    Last edited by japanpimp; 02-20-2011 at 10:36 PM.

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