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    Quote Originally Posted by viorab View Post
    also forcing players to go offline is a terrible idea, what if someone leaves there computer on and evony running while they go to work forgetting about it, then they come back to find they have been forced off evony, and most likely are under attack, and they have no way to help themselves.
    On colonize only servers account sharing is a big problem because only HC's can be captured. Forcing players to go offline for 6 hours per day is plenty fair. The rule will apply to ALL players. So everyone will have the same conditions. As for going to work and coming back to find your city under attack, etc.. That is exactly how it works. When you are at work/school/sleep you are usually away for more than 6 hours, right? So what do you do then? Simple, you rely on your alliance to reinforce your embassy. What you should NOT do is rely on Joe Bob to login to your account and protect the HC. Problem is, that happens all too often.

    Quote Originally Posted by chiasm View Post
    JP did it ever occur to you that maybe... just maybe not everyone is account sharing? that maybe some players (myself included) give the members of their alliance their phone numbers so if they get hit they can be called to log in?

    as for it being too easy to load up HCs with troops... the rest of us should not be penalized because you can't out produce us and because you haven't taken the time to learn how to break down a defense.
    True, not everyone account shares. But most key HC owners do. That is a fact. Now, the spirit of this game is that players will be sleeping/working/school for more than 6 hours per day. And during those times the player must rely on their alliance to hold their cities by way of embassy reinforcement, period. Now, MOST humans sleep between 6-8 hours. Some are insomniacs. So it only makes sense that players will set their sleep windows for when they normally sleep, not when they work/school. So it really won't impact honest players at all since the vast majority of normal people sleep at night. The main group of players that WILL have a problem with a forced sleep window are the account sharers,period. Very few normal players should have a problem with it. Why? Because people sleep. Now, the player can set their sleep window for anytime during the day, totally flexible. It will take most all benefit away from account sharing. All players can rest assured that for at least 6 hours per day NOBODY can use account sharing to hold a city but must use the embassy as Evony intended. Nothing wrong with that.
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    True, not everyone account shares. But most key HC owners do. That is a fact. Now, the spirit of this game is that players will be sleeping/working/school for more than 6 hours per day. And during those times the player must rely on their alliance to hold their cities by way of embassy reinforcement, period. Now, MOST humans sleep between 6-8 hours.
    Personally, I think the best way to eliminate account sharing is give a 24 hour cooldown on Speech Texts and Comforting. Then the HCs have to be held by troops and not 24/7 comforting and free speech texts from FB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deagen View Post
    Personally, I think the best way to eliminate account sharing is give a 24 hour cooldown on Speech Texts and Comforting. Then the HCs have to be held by troops and not 24/7 comforting and free speech texts from FB.
    That won't work. Here is why....

    1. Honest players who do not account share should be able to use comforting and speech texts as much as they want.

    2. Honest players who do not account share WILL be offline for hours on end everyday. That is a fact. Nobody lives on the internet. Honest players will sleep/work/school/go to a movie/shopping/clean the house/beach/dinner/etc... and I would say the lnongest time an honest player will be away from the computer will be 12 hours. But usually honest players will be away from the computer for 8-10 hours everyday while they do the things I already mentioned. So let's cut that down more, say 6 hours. SUPER generous. Make HC owners set a 6 hour window eveyday that will only allow them to chat and buy items. No viewing reports to see what is coming in to attack them. No moving troops of any kind. No strategems. No building. No comforting. Just like they were sleeping. Last I checked, when people sleep they cant view war reports or do anything in their cities. Players can schedule the sleep 6 hour window for anytime they want. And during that time they must rely on the alliance for embassy reinforcements just as if they were actually sleeping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by japanpimp View Post
    That won't work. Here is why....

    1. Honest players who do not account share should be able to use comforting and speech texts as much as they want.

    2. Honest players who do not account share WILL be offline for hours on end everyday. That is a fact. Nobody lives on the internet. Honest players will sleep/work/school/go to a movie/shopping/clean the house/beach/dinner/etc... and I would say the lnongest time an honest player will be away from the computer will be 12 hours. But usually honest players will be away from the computer for 8-10 hours everyday while they do the things I already mentioned. So let's cut that down more, say 6 hours. SUPER generous. Make HC owners set a 6 hour window eveyday that will only allow them to chat and buy items. No viewing reports to see what is coming in to attack them. No moving troops of any kind. No strategems. No building. No comforting. Just like they were sleeping. Last I checked, when people sleep they cant view war reports or do anything in their cities. Players can schedule the sleep 6 hour window for anytime they want. And during that time they must rely on the alliance for embassy reinforcements just as if they were actually sleeping.
    So teenagers on Mountain Dew binges and insomniacs aren't allowed on. Cool!

    If I wake up in the middle of the night and want on, DENIED! Cool!

    I get a phone call from an alliance member saying, "Um you really should get on now" - either to defend myself or something big went down and my troops are needed in a mass assault. (Both have happened). --- DENIED! Right on!


    JP--- Learning from the 'Colonized' position DID warp you and warp you in one specific way. You are tatooed into losing in the back of your eyelids. You look at things from a worst case loss scenario.

    The important factor in Evony is the possibilty of loss. The feeling of loss when losing a city in Age I or Age II later servers honestly I think is somewhat of a test of character.

    If you lose a city and then throw your hands up and say, "I'm done!" you are honestly, a poor competitor and missed out some of the lessons taught in primary school. Loss is real, and is the ONLY thing that makes Winning sweeter.


    "If I could not laugh I could not bear to cry
    If I could not bear to cry I could not bear to live."

    Crap like this annoys me even more than botters... cause, well, I've beaten some botted cities before. This stuff never dies.
    And if there is a way to beat a botted city in Age I, there is a way to get past one of these HCs. It just might take 4 days of persistence, and coordinating things with your alliance to help.

    Oh and the biggest problem with Speech texts in Age II--- the FB bonuses. Like the war horn they are meaninless when you have infinite numbers. Most war horns in my alliance on NA21 run our in 2013.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imrah View Post
    So teenagers on Mountain Dew binges and insomniacs aren't allowed on. Cool!

    If I wake up in the middle of the night and want on, DENIED! Cool!

    I get a phone call from an alliance member saying, "Um you really should get on now" - either to defend myself or something big went down and my troops are needed in a mass assault. (Both have happened). --- DENIED! Right on!


    JP--- Learning from the 'Colonized' position DID warp you and warp you in one specific way. You are tatooed into losing in the back of your eyelids. You look at things from a worst case loss scenario.

    The important factor in Evony is the possibilty of loss. The feeling of loss when losing a city in Age I or Age II later servers honestly I think is somewhat of a test of character.

    If you lose a city and then throw your hands up and say, "I'm done!" you are honestly, a poor competitor and missed out some of the lessons taught in primary school. Loss is real, and is the ONLY thing that makes Winning sweeter.


    "If I could not laugh I could not bear to cry
    If I could not bear to cry I could not bear to live."

    Crap like this annoys me even more than botters... cause, well, I've beaten some botted cities before. This stuff never dies.
    And if there is a way to beat a botted city in Age I, there is a way to get past one of these HCs. It just might take 4 days of persistence, and coordinating things with your alliance to help.

    Oh and the biggest problem with Speech texts in Age II--- the FB bonuses. Like the war horn they are meaninless when you have infinite numbers. Most war horns in my alliance on NA21 run our in 2013.
    I don't know whos alt you are, but you just made my perm ignore list.

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    Yet another assumption gone awry--- He assumes I'm someones alt! Rofl, well that is one way to not deal with (though very sarcastically given) my points.

    I've been watching in the shadows for a long time--- and have never played against JP. (Thank god, unless of course he plays on a different name!)

    I'm honestly tired of some of this trying to remold the game dren with baby and bathwater suggestions. Someday Evony might be crazy enough to listen to them.

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