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    I have been wanting to bring up some questionable tactics to discuss whether they are valid game play or cheat. state your reason why or why not.

    *all discussion are about legit in-game playing not involving alts

    1. reinforce troops to an alliance mate who has vesta on to save 1/2 food upkeep.
    2. apply free upkeep buffs such as milk-n-cookie to the max then go into holiday. come back after others' buffs expire and offer troop parking to alliance mates.
    3. ask a friend to adv port a city next to a red then take the city to cancel 24-hour no-march effect.
    4. same as #3, except that: adv port -> send attack to take the city -> current city owner goes into truce or holiday. so no one else can take city but you.
    5. Relaying resource transport with players of different prestige levels to avoid plunder penalty.
    6. long hour(long distance, 24hr+ blinking) attack. It's annoying but real attack can come when you sleep if you don't truce.
    7. 1-person alliance. declare with funny names then disband.
    8. put a victim in block list before attacking to cut off communication
    9. building more cities than allowed by your title at the same time to make npcing flat faster
    10. posting bids/offer twice faster than others
    11. transport resources to other cities without deducting Food from Load Capacity
    12. item farming
    13. honor dumping
    14. resource farming from valley
    15. lvl10 farming hero transfer without medals
    16. free adv teleporters


    Edit: moved topics up for easier reading

    Note 1: Dont call me idiot to expose them if these were your secrets lol
    Note 2: Some could still exist and some could be gone dont ask how to do it, just state what you think please
    Last edited by Ocean22; 02-16-2011 at 09:03 PM.

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    1, everyone knows about it & I really don't think that's a glitch or cheat.
    2, not sure, I think it was & I don't know for sure but I think they've patched it (please correct me)
    3, This is a glitch I'll say because it's bypassing the 24hr cool down that comes with using an advanced teleport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay View Post
    1, everyone knows about it & I really don't think that's a glitch or cheat.
    2, not sure, I think it was & I don't know for sure but I think they've patched it (please correct me)
    3, This is a glitch I'll say because it's bypassing the 24hr cool down that comes with using an advanced teleport.
    1. Perfectly fine
    2. If they paid for holiday and the buff, why shouldn't they be able to use it?
    3. That's always been part of the game. Imagine if you capped an enemy city that had been adv ported and were then subject to the cooldown of the original player...that'd be stupid. And with the valley movement thing being fixed, it has lost a lot of its potency
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiki. View Post
    1. Perfectly fine
    2. If they paid for holiday and the buff, why shouldn't they be able to use it?
    3. That's always been part of the game. Imagine if you capped an enemy city that had been adv ported and were then subject to the cooldown of the original player...that'd be stupid. And with the valley movement thing being fixed, it has lost a lot of its potency
    ^This. Exactly this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acer5200 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiki. View Post
    1. Perfectly fine
    2. If they paid for holiday and the buff, why shouldn't they be able to use it?
    3. That's always been part of the game. Imagine if you capped an enemy city that had been adv ported and were then subject to the cooldown of the original player...that'd be stupid. And with the valley movement thing being fixed, it has lost a lot of its potency
    ^This. Exactly this.
    1. Legit

    2. Going to totally disagree with you here. I'll stop short of calling it a full out exploit that you should get banned for (but it is still an exploit), but those buffs specifically have a range of dates in which they are supposed to be active. Making use of them after those dates is clearly not intended by Evony. This is a thing people are using to exploit because they are making alts and giving them the buffs and then pulling them out 1 by 1 to store troops for free. If you were meant to still be using milk and cookies in July, the terms of milk and cookies would not have said they expired on Jan 4 or whatever the exact date was. This is incredibly bad programming on Evony's part, but it's clearly unintended and doing it would technically meet the definition of an exploit.

    3. Exploit but very minor one, but it is an exploit because it allows you to do the equivalent of capping a npc without actually using troops to do it. It's minor because you still have to go through the process of sending the troops to the new city, but to me it's pretty clear the Evony did not intend for people to get around the 24 hour cooldown by having a friend atp it for you and then let you cap it right away. Fact is that you aren't supposed to be able to atp a city and be able to attack from it within a couple hours, so it would also qualify as an exploit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felwynn View Post
    3. Exploit but very minor one, but it is an exploit because it allows you to do the equivalent of capping a npc without actually using troops to do it.
    No.

    It's not an exploit, no matter how minor you claim it to be. Cap'n an adv ported city no matter when or how or where is simply part of the game. Evony gets their 90 cents no matter what and it's a viable strategy. It is the same line of strategy as being the final wave in cap'n a 10, 12, 14, 16 or 18. It doesn't matter how many troops, or how many waves or how many total waves you have sent. If your wave is the winning wave when a city have 0 loyalty, you get the city. That's how the game works and that's how it has always worked. Stop mincing words and trying to justify anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felwynn View Post
    1. Legit

    2. Going to totally disagree with you here. I'll stop short of calling it a full out exploit that you should get banned for (but it is still an exploit), but those buffs specifically have a range of dates in which they are supposed to be active. Making use of them after those dates is clearly not intended by Evony. This is a thing people are using to exploit because they are making alts and giving them the buffs and then pulling them out 1 by 1 to store troops for free. If you were meant to still be using milk and cookies in July, the terms of milk and cookies would not have said they expired on Jan 4 or whatever the exact date was. This is incredibly bad programming on Evony's part, but it's clearly unintended and doing it would technically meet the definition of an exploit.

    3. Exploit but very minor one, but it is an exploit because it allows you to do the equivalent of capping a npc without actually using troops to do it. It's minor because you still have to go through the process of sending the troops to the new city, but to me it's pretty clear the Evony did not intend for people to get around the 24 hour cooldown by having a friend atp it for you and then let you cap it right away. Fact is that you aren't supposed to be able to atp a city and be able to attack from it within a couple hours, so it would also qualify as an exploit.
    in regards to the adv porting there are several game mechanics that can be used to ad port a city there and have it full with troops instantly after taking it.
    It is important to note that if the adv cooldown was enforced after a city was captured then it would become a serious trap city. For example an adv port city is placed in a nest of reds then it is attacked by the reds - it is potentially likely that a red flag strong hero is then trapped in that city when captured and that hero is then stuck in that city for 24hrs. In that same time an alliance could then go all out to capture that city back and kill off the trapped hero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DespicableME View Post
    In that same time an alliance could then go all out to capture that city back and kill off the trapped hero.
    Or capture, persuade, then parade it in front of said sad-target's home, singing neener-neener!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felwynn View Post
    1. Legit

    2. Going to totally disagree with you here. I'll stop short of calling it a full out exploit that you should get banned for (but it is still an exploit), but those buffs specifically have a range of dates in which they are supposed to be active. Making use of them after those dates is clearly not intended by Evony. This is a thing people are using to exploit because they are making alts and giving them the buffs and then pulling them out 1 by 1 to store troops for free. If you were meant to still be using milk and cookies in July, the terms of milk and cookies would not have said they expired on Jan 4 or whatever the exact date was. This is incredibly bad programming on Evony's part, but it's clearly unintended and doing it would technically meet the definition of an exploit.

    3. Exploit but very minor one, but it is an exploit because it allows you to do the equivalent of capping a npc without actually using troops to do it. It's minor because you still have to go through the process of sending the troops to the new city, but to me it's pretty clear the Evony did not intend for people to get around the 24 hour cooldown by having a friend atp it for you and then let you cap it right away. Fact is that you aren't supposed to be able to atp a city and be able to attack from it within a couple hours, so it would also qualify as an exploit.
    1) :P

    2) you my smexy ex-host type person are nit picking. The dates represent an amount of time we were given to use the buffs. Putting an acct in holiday freezes your acct. When you come out of hol, it's unfrozen back to the point of which you froze it in the first place.

    3) ok you have a point but i'm not agreeing with you because i dont feel like it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Felwynn View Post
    2. Going to totally disagree with you here. I'll stop short of calling it a full out exploit that you should get banned for (but it is still an exploit), but those buffs specifically have a range of dates in which they are supposed to be active. Making use of them after those dates is clearly not intended by Evony. This is a thing people are using to exploit because they are making alts and giving them the buffs and then pulling them out 1 by 1 to store troops for free. If you were meant to still be using milk and cookies in July, the terms of milk and cookies would not have said they expired on Jan 4 or whatever the exact date was. This is incredibly bad programming on Evony's part, but it's clearly unintended and doing it would technically meet the definition of an exploit.
    I'm not going to get involved with this thread, because I understand the ultimate goal is to just say there's so much f'd up that "anything goes", but did want to comment on this.

    I see two distinct situations here:

    1) Buffs that were paid for by the person using them.
    2) Buffs that were paid for by someone else and the person using them got them for free.

    The current Candy promotion and the Milk and Cookies would fall under the second situation. The person buying the package does not get the gift item.

    I have no problem with not getting the extension for something I didn't pay for, but I would have a problem with not getting an extension of something I did pay for, like an Excalibur, Wealth of Nations, Art of War, Vesta, or any of the attack/defense/heal/production buffs.

    If it was made to where buffs that weren't acquired by money or game coins spent by the person that is directly using them didn't get extended, then there'd be no "free parking" or what have you, at least with respect to single-account players. Alt-account issues would be dealt with by enforcing the current rules in regards to alt accounts. If they didn't exist, they couldn't benefit / exploit.

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