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    Quote Originally Posted by The REAL GE View Post
    Sorry Sage. Read my Post. -200mil -300 mil is EASY to maintain without even hitting anyone

    All ya got to do is send and come back as they come back. Read my post......

    In non war times I was running non stop with my Standing defence army of -350mil an hour not including a usual 30+ reo waves out which meant I had another 3 Mil Archers out at any given time which I also supplied food for if needed


    From my Main city I'd send single scouts All over the map sometimes literally 400 miles away testing..... And anywhere I saw a decent NPC farm with few players there I'd cap a 10 next to my main and send 10 100k scout waves at each city then range an NPC if it had decent res or adv port a city in if I had an Adv port handy


    It is easy enough to maintain a standing army of -500mil an hour WITHOUT Vesta's, Being sent food, Using any automated software or cheating in any way shape or form...... Believe me I got reported enough cause no one could believe I was farming that much but they knew not to Attack me as I was almost always online and if I wasn't I had the game open and every Alliance mate had my mobile number to call if I was hit or my honor moved more than 100k
    I guess my question is, is it legit ( legal) to what 1 player is supposed to be able to do without any help from anyone or any software?

    I have a downstais neighbor, a close personal friend of mine who assisted me in our atemp to break 120 million food per hour without any softwares of any sort and no vesta. we failed.

    Here is why, there is roughly 8 hours plus to fully regenerate npc.
    First waves of npc 5s what we consider free food and resources within 3-4 miles on a 50 min return trip, all 9 waves per city of 27 million food provided it wasn't farm by others already. Because i have a double city in most location the npcs where divided by 2, therefore instead of 4 waves i can farm it in 2 waves cutting my time farming.

    Now the second waves takes much longer, or any waves there after due to the distance and every single rally spot if possible must be utilize as farmers.
    This second waves averages at 40 mins @ 6 miles distance one way trip making that a total of 1 hour 20 min for another 27 million food and resources. This bring us to the total hours used farming 2 waves; 50 min on the first wave plus 1 hour 20 min roughly totaling 2 hours 10 mins with only 6 hours less to farm till the next regeneration.

    Now the 3rd wave is a bit tricky, i switch mayor leaving my best hero due to the farming distance. My main hero farm 10s as close as possible or use this method the entire farming wave and risk a lower resources production, which i dont do anymore. Back to the 3rd waves, the average miles for my 3rd waves are 10 miles @ 1 hour 6 min 1 way average bringing the total hours for all 3 waves of roughly about 5 hour plus, leaving us less than 3 hours left before the next cycle.

    Now the remainding time i either use my quicker farming method, which is cavs on any players closest to me dead or active provided there is enough resources.

    Now lets for instance say i use the rest of the time to farm more npc, this means i would be stuck in the farming mode for almost the entire 8 hours putting me at risk when under attack.
    How? you say, defense against attack requires one to manipulate troops count to counter attacks accordingly, with all available rally spot used, i will be stuck on open and close gate mode which can be more damaging defensively.

    I quess what i am trying to say is,even software assisting tool cannot alter the time allowed given to farm, it surely cannot add any more time than 8 hours to use before each regeneration. Farming great distance would be pointless due to the factor of time and it does occupy 1 or more farming waves, plus the food it takes to travel great distance using bally and trans which will be ruduced progressively depending on distance.

    I could have 1 city in 1 area and have 4 to 5 farming waves per city plus
    10s, but that would still be close to using 6 to 7 hours, which i rather not due to the facts i have a life.

    I am not going to disagree with you, because if you were able to, then there must be a way, but base on logic and several attemp using my personal experience, i was unable to break -120 with 8 cities legally even with some farming assistant from a close personal friend. The npc layout is very important and alliances members spread must also be taken into account. A crowded map with members having the same goal is jut 1 big obsticle.

    Now in the other hand, an assisted program may be able to add a few more waves however, it wont double your foods, mainly due to the time limitation.
    However, multi account or none active account using software to farm to which the main account can harvest later can make a huge difference, even more so as more of this are set up.


    Quote Originally Posted by neko_lord View Post
    See, the thing is, every time I put up an 8, Evony whisks it away the following week with their NPC purge. I can no longer rely on a level 8 NPC to be around any more than 1 week, no matter the location. Usually I can only have an 8 for a couple of days, as it takes some time for a purged NPC to roll back around, and then it's Monday, so it gets taken away.
    I hear you, i to experience lossing several 5s, 2 or 3 10s and all 8s on 148.



    I would also like to add one more thing. I normally scout alot of cities in hope to find one of those resource bank which i have been lucky in more than 3 occasion and or scout for inactive account that has a high resources.
    Most players hide thier resources in a small city away from suspecting eyes if they are hording resources and I have been lucky to find 50 mil wood and 70 mil iron and countless food on a level 1-3 city roughly. As to why they do this, no idea i was lucky to find some.
    Last edited by deadlysage; 02-23-2011 at 12:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadlysage View Post
    Also i had a very high pol hero which i train by hitting 8s, with 99k wars 1k trans, or hit a 10s when min after farming it.
    See, the thing is, every time I put up an 8, Evony whisks it away the following week with their NPC purge. I can no longer rely on a level 8 NPC to be around any more than 1 week, no matter the location. Usually I can only have an 8 for a couple of days, as it takes some time for a purged NPC to roll back around, and then it's Monday, so it gets taken away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spooner1 View Post
    Feeding massive armies with 10s.

    btw this is for Age 1

    When people have armies that eats 50-200Mill per hour they all say hit lots of 10s. I have never really been able to figure out how that works because of the cost of the farming.

    Lets say somebody is eating a easy number like 100mill per hour and has 10 cities. 10Mill per hour in each city.

    Basic Math

    And lets say there looses are 4k Archers 4k Scouts 2k Warriors per NPC hit.
    Simple math
    4k Archers = 1.4 Mill Lumber and 1.2 Mill Iron
    4K scouts = 800K lumber and 600K iron
    2K warriors = 200K Lumber and 100K iron

    Total = 2.4Mill lumber and 1.9 Mill iron. per NPC 10 hit
    They need to hit 12.6 (so 13) NPC 10s per day.
    31.2 Mill Lumber
    24.7 Mill Iron
    Per day.

    There city can only make 24 Mill Lumber or iron in a day (if they have a really good politic hero might make 1.5Mill per hour meaning 36Mill per day)

    were is the extra res coming from?


    I have always survived from 5s and 10s to feed my army once it was eating 80mill per hour, I do not understand how people can feed armies that eat 200mill per hour, and yes there is lots like that.

    Please do not say "Bots" because even if they had bots farming for them, They still need the res.

    So how is it done???
    It is so simple it is scary


    A Good Res city ( lumber / iron ) can yeild 1.8 mil per hour with 10 level 10 valleys and a decent mayor..... ( 250-300+ )

    So 8 cities times that so far then cut in half as you will want 4 Iron and 4 Lumber cities right

    Set your cities up with main city then at distances of 15 miles in a octagon around your main city ( or as close to 15 miles without going over 20 ) have your res cities


    10k Bally and 10k Trans per city and Nothing but level 5 NPC's for 7 miles in any direction from your res cities

    Main city is res dump.... and 10 farmers so it is surrounded by 7 miles of Level 10 NPC's in every direction


    9 runs per city at a level 5 NPC if memory serves me ( prob not ) is 300k res and 3 mil food per full NPC so that's an extra2.7 mil lumber and iron and 27 mil food per city per run...... Now farming in a circle you should be able to farm every NPC within 7 miles in just about 6 hours 45 mins.... and a good location means roughly 25-30 NPC 5's in that 7 mile radius


    So that is 9 mil lumber / iron and 90 mil food every res ( Support ) city every 7 hours... times that by 8 and that is an extra 72 mil lumber / iron every 6 hours 45 mins and an extra 900 mil food without farmin a single 10



    Now you got your main city which you farm 10's from so.....

    You have roughly 20-30 Level 10's within 7-8 miles of your main

    9 runs out at a time

    Farming the 10's a LOT quicker due to not using Bally

    So that is an added 18 mil lumber / iron and 540 mil food just for the 10's every 4 hours 45 mins


    do that twice a day that is an extra total 154 mil lumber and 154 mil iron and 1.8 bil food from the level 5's and 36 Mil lumber and 36 mil iron and 1.08 Bil food from the 10's for a total of

    180 Mil lumber
    180 mil iron
    2.88 Bil food
    for 13 hours farming

    Then you have your war city which consumes most of the food which you port around hitting anyone that is worth it

    OR You use that window in which the NPC's aren't quite full yet to long range NPC's with main hits coming from your main city and cav loy spam hitting from 4 support cities meaning you need atleast 400k cavs


    Now keep in mind some people like me actually spend 18 hours+ a day farming ( back when I played ageI ) and send scouts All over the map looking for any city with a few hundred mil food as Ports drop from battles often enough making hunting it easy as well


    So that should help explain where All the extra res comes from to farm the Level 10's and how they manage such large upkeeps


    At my biggest I was running at - 600mil an hour or higher..... Had 250k Bally 40k rams, 35k pults, 2.7 mil cavs, 1.7 mil phracts, 6 mil scouts, 12 mil warriors, 3 mil archers, 600k swords, 750k pikes Just in my war city.... My main had Everything the same except no horse and 1.5 mil more swords / pikes



    When I went offline at night I'd find a few Ally mates who were willing to keep gates closed and remove scouts on one of their cities so I could reo horse from war city to res cities and then to their cities and I'd send enough food along for 12 hours


    It is so easy to maintain a very large army without being a cheat.... Just very few have the time or want to take the time as it is BORING
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    my best poli hero is 2 million per hour actually
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    there are a few tricks that are NOT cheating and NOT using a glitch to make it possible.
    But i prefer not to tell and it would be awesome if others think same way - cause that is what makes the difference between a player and a smart player - and if all would do it it wont work anymore. So those that know who how: if you telling you make it not work for you anymore! so hush!

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    the simple solution youll get from me is the market. on any good day, i can turn the ~30m wood made in my wood cities into 100m each by simply buying at the lowest sell price on the market and selling at the highest buying price. Factor in any willing persons ability to triple their resources and youll see that wood and iron are never an issue.
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    thought bot's wasn't allowed and as far as i know not any that work anyway but main thing about farming food is to make shore you have alot of red flag's about

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    No magic tricks here.
    I have a farming routine. I basically farm every 8 hrs or so and I do so from every city I have. It seems to be holding up for me, just don't ask me about the obscene food bill . I hit on average around 60 L10 NPC's per day (this is very hard for those that don't have the time, I agree). I also find that the extra resources in 5's help too.

    It's impossible to hold a massive army in 1 city (unless you plan on killing them all in the next day or two), so I spread mine around. Although I keep troops in every city I build certain units in different cities. When I go to war I gather up all my extra troops for war & place them in a war city.

    Not saying that it's the most efficient or best way of doing things but it goes to show there are ways staying on top of the upkeep of a large army.

    EDIT: I'll thought I'll add this on. If you have a little patience you can also play the market & buy food to help feed your troops. Another idea is keep a food city. Or use 1 city to farm a large amount of 10's & transport out. These things will help if you have huge food bills.
    Last edited by Morgan le Fay; 02-23-2011 at 01:15 PM.

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    using the market to make a profit, VERY good politic heroes, i could have 2m+ lumber/iron production in every city if i converted some heroes, lots of 5 farming, plundering, resources from alliance

    or of course if people abuse the rules, and use alts and bots.

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    Yeah the only way to feed such armies is to farm other players for their food, escpecially there food cities with a couple billion food in them. biggest food plunder ive heard of was 24billion food, lolz all undefended so no loses.

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