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    LOL, son....Oh my bad. I was unaware that I am not allowed to reply to a post in an open thread. Maybe you should have PM'd JP instead?

    On a side note. You're post makes me curious about the validity of the rep system on these forums...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesterus View Post
    Translate this:

    I am a japanophile with nothing better to do than talk about japan and let people know im living in japan japan japan japan.

    Nippon

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    Sure thing Nestrus...
    僕はネステラスさんです。Boku ha nesuterasu-san desu
    I am Nestrus
    僕は注目が大好き。boku ha chuumoku ga daisuki
    I love attention
    皆さん、僕に沢山な注目上げてね。mina-san, boku ni takusan na chuumoku agete, ne
    Everyone, give me attention, ok?
    僕が偉いよ、皆より。boku ga erai yo, mina yori
    I am greater than everyone.
    世界で僕が一番のインターネットのトロールです。sekai de boku ga ichiban no internet no troll desu
    I am the greatest internet troll in the world
    よろしくお願いします。。。yoroshiku onegaishimasu.
    Please be gracious to me/Thanks

    Rough English translation:
    I am Nestrus. I love attention. Everyone, give lots of attention to me, ok? I am greater than everyone. I am the number one Internet troll in the world. Please be gracious to me, thanks.
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    So does Japanese have the verb to be?
    How does Japanese form the future and past?
    Are nouns gendered?
    Do nouns decline?
    What is the sentence word order (is there one)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boleslav View Post
    So does Japanese have the verb to be?
    How does Japanese form the future and past?
    Are nouns gendered?
    Do nouns decline?
    What is the sentence word order (is there one)?
    Well, I can't answer some of those because I was a poor English student. I mean, I know what nouns, verbs and adjectives are and can identify the subject most of the time, but that's about it. So as far as English grammar rules go, I am soooo not the man.

    1. Nounds are not gendered

    Japanese use past, present and future tense.... as well as other tenses. They have a word for it. It is katsuyoukei (活用形) meaning Inflections.
    This is important as it is the foundation of changing word forms in japanese...

    First you need to understand that the japanese alphabet is VERY straight forward, extremely logical. See attached image.
    http://blog.asiahotels.com/wp-conten...e-alphabet.gif

    Ka series line of sounds
    Sa series line of sounds
    Ta series line of sounds
    Na series line of sounds
    Ha series line of sounds
    Ma series line of sounds
    Ra series line of sounds
    Ya series line of sounds

    Each of the rows has an "a" "i" "u" "e" or "o" in it.
    Take row 1 for eample, Ka. Notice "a" is after the "k". Well for the next K series sound simply replace the "a" andinsert an "i". So when done the K series of sounds will look like:
    Ka Ki Ku Ke Ko
    Now, for the S series of sound, take a wild guess of what they are.... see? Simple.
    Now, the "a" "i" "u" "e" "o" are also used just by themselves without a preceding "K" or "S" or whatever.

    Let's use the word "go". In Japanese it is "iku".
    "Iku" is the "root" word for "go". In other words, in a japanese dictionary you will only find the word "iku". Not it's other tenses or inflections.
    Let's use "iku" in all of it's various forums/inflections/tenses...
    First, notice that "iku" ends with "ku". Thus it is on the "K" train (as I like to call it). So we will use the K train to transform the word.... remember, each sound train has 5 variations "a" "i" "u" "e" "o"...

    ikanai (won't go, like, I don't want to go)
    ikimasu (will go, future tense), ikimasen (will not go, future tense), ikimashou (let's go, polite form of ikou)
    iku
    ikeba (if I go), ike (go!, command form)
    ikou (let's go)

    Notice the "ka" "ki" "ku" "ke" "ko" above....
    Again, "ku" is the dictionary or root form of "go"

    ikanai means 'won't go'
    ikimasu means will go (future tense)
    iku means go
    ikeba means 'if (I) go'
    ikou means 'let's go'

    The ka ki ku ke ko transformed the word.

    There are also other forms of iku.
    ikitai 'want to go'
    In japanese 'want to' word forms usually end with "tai"
    ikimasen 'will not go' (future)

    But for present tense iku is itteimasu
    Hmm... strange. Notice the double t... it means there is a pause after the "i"... "i-teimasu."

    Past tense iku is ikimash!ta.
    Past tense Japanese words usually end with "ta". It is usually "masu" transformed into "mash!ta". So ikimasu = I will go (future tense). Ikimash!ta = I went (past tense)

    Anyway, present tense words usually don't fit nice and neat into the katsuyoukei word transformation table. But hey....

    Ok, sometimes words to not follow the K, T, N, etc... train tables like the above example. Sometimes they follow a special forum of the S train.
    For example, the root word for eat is taberu.
    Does that mean the word taberu is on the R train? Taberu, right? No, it is actually on a special form of the S train. And it gets funky....
    Tabenai (won't eat, don't want to)
    Tabetai (want to eat)
    Taberu (root word)
    Tabete (command form like "ike" example above)
    Tabemasu (will eat), tabemasen (will not eat), tabemash!ta (ate), tabemashouka (polite 'shall we eat')
    Tabeo (let's eat)


    Now, with everything you just learned you can transform just about any japanese word into various tenses and inflections

    Try to change forms on these words and let's see how you do:
    In Japanese the root word for drink is nomu. Transform Nomu.
    In Japanese the root word for "throw away" is Suteru. Transform Suteru
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    Now we will work on sentence connectors and bring it all home....

    Let's talk about food again. Tabemasu = will eat.
    The japanese connector "wo" (pronounced "oh") connects objects to an action.
    So, let's connect a sandwich to eating.
    sandwich "wo" will eat
    or
    sandwich wo tabemasu
    "wo" is the connector used between object and action

    I will eat a sandwich = boku (I) ha (connector between subject and object) sandwich wo tabemasu

    I will put a sandwich in the trash box. Boku ha sandwich wo trash box ni sutemasu. Or, boku ha trash box ni sandwich wo sutemasu
    Notice how "ni" indicates "direction". Not literal direction but like placement or WHERE the action will take place or WHERE the object will go.
    Shopping ni ikimasu
    I will throw a ball at your face. Face ni ball wo throw.
    There is a cat on top of my bed. Bed no ue (on top of the bed) ni cat ga imasu (exists).

    The connector "no" is harder to explain. So here are some example:
    My pen = boku no pen
    My face = Boku no face
    table top = table no ue (ue means top, so table top)
    under the table = table no sh!ta (sh!ta = under)
    computer CPU = computer no CPU

    Now, try to make Japanese sentences using connectors but use english words. For example...
    Box ni ball wo throw...
    Box no side ni ball wo throw
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    Default Some excellent language sites

    Here are some websites I use regularly for japanese.
    You can enter English or Japanese words

    This one is the best. It even offers examples of how to use the words in sentences and often uses common sayings or phrases as the examples. Problem is, you need to know Hiragana to use it.
    http://www.saiga-jp.com/kanji_dictionary.html

    This is another good website. You don't need to know hiragana to use it.
    http://linear.mv.com/cgi-bin/j-e/dict

    And of course, google translate.
    However, I would highly recommend that if you want to study some japanese that the very first thing you do is learn the ~80 hiragana characters. Forget Katakana for now.
    Study this chart:
    http://blog.asiahotels.com/wp-conten...e-alphabet.gif
    You can use the chart to help use the first dictionay I mentioned.

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    :{Tip}: Do not attempt to understand this thread after a hard nights raving, i think whats left of my brain just melted....
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