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    How to be a good host!:

    On any server, we see alliance crumble ALL the time.

    From either:

    • Incapable hosts
    • People who the host has promoted, who are either incapable themselves, or are spies
    • The alliance full of noobs and unexperienced players, as the host was a prestige sniffing recruiter.
    • And etc etc etc...

    Hopefully, this thread will inform and help some of you, who are intending on becoming a host in any server / alliance.

    This section is about yourself as a host:

    • You must be active in chat! (No-one likes a non-communicative host), as members will be lost, and if they want to ask questions, who would be their to help them? You want to really have a balance with your communication with the alliance.
    • Depending on your alliance type (Elite, a 'normal' average alliance or an unexperienced alliance), you want to check on the people who you are recruiting. If your alliance has many a elite player, you DO NOT want to recruit unexperienced players. As those elite players will give you an ultimatum, on who you're keeping, them or the elite? Also, older members of your alliance do not (usually) want to play with little kids in the same alliance. Most parents, or older members go on Evony, to get away from their children! So if many of your members do not want a certain young member their, you're kicking one member to save save many, remember?
    • As to my previous point, you may wanna talk to the person who wants to join the alliance. Especially with a new server!, you have plenty of time to question people's knowledge of the game. As your alliance number in the start of the server means nothing, you can sort out your alliance, with who's the elite, and who's the unexperienced. And you can see where you go from there.
    • From a personal experience, you do not want to promote players all 'willie nilly'... This is one of the worst options you can perform whilst host of the alliance. (I once promoted a player to Vice Host, as he was first player in my alliance, and he was helping with recruitment, then 2 days later, i found out, after a debate we had a while ago about a sister alliance, he'd created one, by asking someone else to do it, and the alliance disbanded, due to anger. You do not want to recruit someone because they sent resources once, or they had a good battle report. That doesn't mean anything! Anyone can do that! So pick the people you promote out of trust, and experience. But trust is earned (Nothing worse than a noob Vice host right?)


    Right, hopefully by now, you've understand this so far (and seeing as you've not been put off by the amount of writing, you're interested in this thread).

    Your personality also can affect your alliance, and how you deal with things that can happen.

    • If someone makes fun of you, but in a comedic way, you DO NOT want to come out all guns blazing, having a go at the person. You should laugh, or make fun of him too, (also in a comedic way). After all, Evony is also a social experience. No-one wants a too serious, hot-headed host, who can't take a joke.
    • If someone asks a stupid question, like 'How do you farm lv5 npc's?' you don't want to ridicule the person. You should help him. But as you're host, you're busy usually. So allow the prebyseter's, Vice Host's and other players answer. And if no-one knows an answer to the question, you come in yourself and answer them, and help them. After all, that's what hosts do.
    • Some people don't mind a host, who swears alot, ridicules people etc, but also some players don't like this kind of host, and want a friendly, re-assuring host. So you must have a balance between these two things. Stay out of conversation for a while (if possible), study your alliance. Do the majority like the angry attitude? Or the friendly attitude? You must decide on who you are. After all, you are the MOST important individual in that alliance, who everyone looks up too.


    • P.s, I've noticed that players respond better, to a host who uses proper grammar, spelling and sentencing. For example, if a host uses wording like 'Hey, u k?', 'Hw wz ur day?', You are not going to take he/she seriously. But instead, if the host asks you 'Hey Aaron, How are you?', 'How was your day today?', you feel more comfortable with the kind of person. And this kind of host, shows they have class, and have the time to communicate properly with their members. But this isn't always, this is just from my own experience.


    Being a host:

    • Being a host means, you have no social life USUALLY. You NEED to be there for your alliance. ALL the time. (Apart from when you say you're going to bed of course). In the first several days of the server, your members in your alliance are like little children who need your guidance. For everything. (Which is different for an elite alliance of course, who would barely ask you for anything)
    • You need dedication.
    • Loyalty (To your alliance and members)
    • Wisdom (To guide your alliance)
    • Charisma (Everyone likes a charismatic and funny host)
    • Intelligence (Evony knowledge,to help people of course!)

    • And ESPECIALLY in the couple several days also, you need to spend every single second of your time on that account of yours. People who have complaints, questions, people who wanna join your alliance, merges etc etc, You need to be online for these things, otherwise, you can lose out on members, if some wanna quit, and you could've stopped them, or people who wanted to join, and you were too late.


    Host duties/actions:
    • If your alliance, has many a experienced player, you don't want to friendly too many alliance in the same state! As then, your members will have to share npc fields with neighbouring friendlies, and it'll be very hard for them to raise a big army on the game, due to lack of resources, and with minimal hostiles, you're alliance can be royally scr*wed quite easily.
    • If one of your Vice hosts or prebyseter's are causing havoc, are upsetting many players, you will have to kick them, despite them being in quite high authority in the alliance. As i mentioned before, you're kicking one member, to save many right?
    • Also, with big decisions like alliance merges involving you, you need to inform the alliance! You are host, true, but if players aren't happy with you, doing something that important like that, they will leave you! Players don't like too much change.


    I think i've mentioned every topic so far, if anyone has any questions, just reply with what i missed, and i will edit the thread

    Thank you for your time reading this thread.
    And i hope this helps you, in the upcoming servers, or past servers!

    -Aaron4174


    Thanks to DameKitten for teaching me everything i've learnt to be a good host!
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    Last edited by Aaron4174; 03-04-2011 at 12:19 PM. Reason: Emphasising my point.

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    You should add you need 10K gold and at least a level 2 Embassy to be a host lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by spooner1 View Post
    You should add you need 10K gold and at least a level 2 Embassy to be a host lol


    If you can't find that one out yourself, you don't have the right to be a host


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    Quote Originally Posted by spooner1 View Post
    You should add you need 10K gold and at least a level 2 Embassy to be a host lol
    hahaha nice.

    as for the post, nice ramble.. lol

    some of the best hosts ive seen are big lurkers

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    I disagree with the no social life comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by *jdm* View Post
    I disagree with the no social life comment
    Depends on the host and Vice hosts most of the time.
    But plenty of the hosts and alliance i've been in, they haven't had a life ...

    Maybe they were just obsessed with the game?

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    You realy can put in words what is needed to be a good host. Most host are different but that doesn't make 1 better then another.

    IE. My host does a lot of the things u said a host shouldn't do. I log in and don't even know who will be an officer but she is a great host and best alliance I've been in. Always have fun even if I have no idea what we are gonna do next
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prodigy the 5 View Post
    You realy can put in words what is needed to be a good host. Most host are different but that doesn't make 1 better then another.

    IE. My host does a lot of the things u said a host shouldn't do. I log in and don't even know who will be an officer but she is a great host and best alliance I've been in. Always have fun even if I have no idea what we are gonna do next
    It's a habit!

    It's because i can type fast ahah

    That's true, but sometimes that can cheese off some people. But as you said, it varies from host to host. The thread is about hosts and alliance on average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron4174 View Post
    How to be a good host!:

    • You must be active in chat! (No-one likes a non-communicative host), as members will be lost, and if they want to ask questions, who would be their to help them? You want to really have a balance with your communication with the alliance. I disagree, you do not have to be chatty too have a succesful alliance, that is what members are for. Hosts are generally caught up in pink/other chats
    • Depending on your allian ce type (Elite, a 'normal' average alliance or an unexperienced alliance), you want to check on the people who you are recruiting. If your alliance has many a elite player, you DO NOT want to recruit unexperienced players. As those elite players will give you an ultimatum, on who you're keeping, them or the elite? Also, older members of your alliance do not (usually) want to play with little kids in the same alliance. Most parents, or older members go on Evony, to get away from their children! So if many of your members do not want a certain young member their, you're kicking one member to save save many, remember? I disagree again. Recruiting inexperienced players is ok as long as you are willing to take the time to teach them. You can tell if someone is an idiot or has potential to be a great asset with guidance. Ignoring these players is a huge mistake. Some of my noobs early on are now some of my best players
    • As to my previous point, you may wanna talk to the person who wants to join the alliance. Especially with a new server!, you have plenty of time to question people's knowledge of the game. As your alliance number in the start of the server means nothing, you can sort out your alliance, with who's the elite, and who's the unexperienced. And you can see where you go from there. It's a huge mistake to just take a ton of players ina nd sort through them later in a new server. STicking 100 strangers together when no one has proven their worth is asking for an alliance to fall apart. You should start out small 5-6 players in the same vicinity, then grow and add as you find players suitable to your requirements.


    Right, hopefully by now, you've understand this so far (and seeing as you've not been put off by the amount of writing, you're interested in this thread).

    Your personality also can affect your alliance, and how you deal with things that can happen.


    Being a host:

    • Being a host means, you have no social life usually. You NEED to be there for your alliance. ALL the time. (Apart from when you say you're going to bed of course). In the first several days of the server, your members in your alliance are like little children who need your guidance. For everything. (Which is different for an elite alliance of course, who would barely ask you for anything) I disagree with this again. It's all how you set your rules and expectations. A good loyal alliance shouldnt need you 24/7, and your leadership should be able to run things while you are gone. If they can't you need new leaders.
    • You need dedication.
    • Loyalty (To your alliance and members)
    • Wisdom (To guide your alliance)
    • Charisma (Everyone likes a charismatic and funny host)
    • Intelligence (Evony knowledge,to help people of course!)

    • And ESPECIALLY in the couple several days also, you need to spend every single second of your time on that account of yours. People who have complaints, questions, people who wanna join your alliance, merges etc etc, You need to be online for these things, otherwise, you can lose out on members, if some wanna quit, and you could've stopped them, or people who wanted to join, and you were too late. again delegate.


    Host duties/actions:
    • If your alliance, has many a experienced player, you don't want to friendly too many alliance in the same state! As then, your members will have to share npc fields with neighbouring friendlies, and it'll be very hard for them to raise a big army on the game, due to lack of resources, and with minimal hostiles, you're alliance can be royally scr*wed quite easily. You shouldnt have any blues just to have blues for protection or to not hit. The only reason to have a friendly is if there is some advantage to it. Personally i think blues are pointless. If you dont want to hit someone, dont hit it. I tell my members they dont have to hit any individual they dont wan tto hit, but i'm not going to blue an alliance just because they have a buddy or two in there. SImilarly to a red, you should never start a a war you cannot finish, but you should always have a challenge, otherwise your members get bored and quit/join a different allianct
    • If one of your Vice hosts or prebyseter's are causing havoc, are upsetting many players, you will have to kick them, despite them being in quite high authority in the alliance. As i mentioned before, you're kicking one member, to save many right? Kicking someone you trusted as a presby is a bit extreme. You should talk to the person, respect them and the feelings of your alliance, if they need to be demoted do it. But always see both sides to what is going on. Players can be oversensitive when they are slacking and need a swift kick in the ass
    • Also, with big decisions like alliance merges involving you, you need to inform the alliance! You are host, true, but if players aren't happy with you, doing something that important like that, they will leave you! Players don't like too much change.


    I think i've mentioned every topic so far, if anyone has any questions, just reply with what i missed, and i will edit the thread

    Thank you for your time reading this thread.
    And i hope this helps you, in the upcoming servers, or past servers!

    -Aaron4174


    Thanks to DameKitten for teaching me everything i've learnt to be a good host!
    Whereever you are!
    Sorry, dont meant o be a total bish but i believe this guide is incorrect

    What makes a good host is simple, someone who cares about their team, someone who lays out the rules and expectations clearly and makes sure they are followed through.

    The following destroys an alliance:

    1) Drama- all personal issues shouod be kept off alliance chat. If it cant be resolved the peopl einvolved should just ignore eachother and pretend to be mature adults
    2) Not being prepared to be invaded. All cities should be war ready at all times with proper defences set in place. Nothing is more demoralizing then to see city after city get cleared.
    3) Too much diplo- What is the point in playing if you are surrounded by blues. A home state should belong to you and you alone. If someones in there, kick them out.
    4) A lack of respect and communication- Your team becomes your friends, they are not your subordinates, you simply are the one to keep things organised. Remember that and keep in mind to keep everyones voices important
    5) Alts and botting- ruins the game and puts your team at risk for being permabanned and that just is a weakness.
    6) People not taking a care or awareness of whats going on around them- everyone should hover over WRs and have troops to rein a friend, inactive accts should be booted b/c they are a liability. ranking and quanitity never matter, it's all about the quality of your players and how well you work together. Being in every single state is just making it so it's impossible to defend from attack
    7) too many rules- if you have too many rules and it's not fun eventually people will find a better alliance

    At the end of the day it's just knowing your members and knowing what they enjoy and not making decisions that will make them unhappy.
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    I'm not perfect at all of these things, but if you can get most of those your alliance will be fine. Anything else is just extra nonsense. Yeah good grammar is helpful for having people take you seriously, but it's not note worthy or essential.
    Last edited by Lazzzzzzzzalicious!; 03-04-2011 at 12:36 PM.


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    Yes but imo to be a good host you should stand out from others. An average player can do as stated above but only some can be good or great host. I've personaly luckly to have gotten recruited by 1
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