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    guys we are kind of getting off topic here we do dispute some of the specifics but there are 3 general things we all agree on
    1 we all want a 15 set

    2 they are expensive it takes a lot of farming or a lot of money no one says it is cheep.

    3 there is a random element to the stars that is madding it can make it cost few thousand gems or 500k gems.

    I am not sure anything needs to be done a 15 set should be rare early on. the only way a 15 set will happen in the first month of a server is if some one blows 5-35k the first day. and over time yea 6 month or 2 years of aggressive farming. the only part of this equation that is unfair is the random element but so what it is a game randomness is a part of games.

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    I just don't want some random player coming into the thread saying they got a 15 star set by just farming gems unless it is the truth. Because I honestly want to know the first player to get a 15 star set by just farming gems, no spending. And I do not believe TentPig did it by just farming unless he was Steve Austin or Chuck Norris and farmed 500,000 NPC in 15 months for those 150,000 delicate gems.
    The reason reaching a 15 star set by just farming gems is important to this thread is because it will give everyone an idea of the work involved.

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    I have a 14 set with 4 at 15 stars no coining. I cannot estimate how many gems it's taken, but I generally send out 3-4 runs of 85 hits per day. This is na1, so over a year of pretty intensive farming to get to where I am, but with no guarantee of getting the other pieces to 15. Still, even on na1 there are fewer than 10 peeps w a 14 set. Obviously I didn't follow the advice of doing 1 gear to 15 at a time. I do, however, watch WC. If many ppl are getting starred at the level I need, I'll try. Does that help? Who knows.

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    it is worth noting that a 15 set is 3x the cost of a 14 set it has to do with the 45% multiplied out works. i have a 15 set and i paid dearly for it. i stayed at 13 for a wile

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    Quote Originally Posted by japanpimp View Post
    Right there man, you said early March 2009. I was like, WTF?



    Yeah, I remember Facebook announced it released in early April 2010. That's when I quit my short 3 week stint in Age 1. I was overjoyed at the No More Bullies and No More Farming ads. It was a big moment in my life. Bigger than any of my marriages.
    Whoops, I totally meant 2010 there! *Contributes mistake to being sick*

    BRB I need to go cry over the future of humanity.

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    Japanpimp VS Acer5200 *Get's Popcorn*

    Japan you're right, my star lvl tool: http://devil2k10.webs.com/starupgradedowngrade.htm will be innacurate (But still dam close) because it doesn't have any "Negatives" on. Now, since you argue with those who are right, why don't you tell me where it needs adjustments since I'm the developer of the tool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toeesquire View Post
    it is worth noting that a 15 set is 3x the cost of a 14 set it has to do with the 45% multiplied out works. i have a 15 set and i paid dearly for it. i stayed at 13 for a wile
    Actually, that is an important point.
    Getting a 12 or 13 set is not all that hard. Farming alone can do it.
    But there is only a 9% chance of going from 12 to 15 (12-13 = 45% chance, etc..)
    So imagine all the farming it took to get the 12 set... then multiply that by 9. That is how much farming you would need to get a 15 set. So if it took you 3 months of farming to get a 12 set then it will take you another 27 months of farming to get a 15 set.


    Quote Originally Posted by Evil2k8 View Post
    Japanpimp VS Acer5200 *Get's Popcorn*

    Japan you're right, my star lvl tool: http://devil2k10.webs.com/starupgradedowngrade.htm will be innacurate (But still dam close) because it doesn't have any "Negatives" on. Now, since you argue with those who are right, why don't you tell me where it needs adjustments since I'm the developer of the tool.
    I am sure your math is fine. I am sure you were careful about it. All I'm saying is that Evony is adding some other variables into the success equation. Either intentionally or unintentionally. Because Evony real life success rates are lower than your math.

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    No he is stating that adjustments need to be made when one persone pays 4k for a 15 set and another pays 35k seems obsurdly unfair

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    Poor Brutus... still obsessing about me.

    Sigh.

    I guess some peeps can't deal with being wrong.


    The one disappointment of getting all 15 stars is I still only have 30 second archers, even with an atk value of 1019.


    Quote Originally Posted by Midlothian View Post
    I have a 14 set with 4 at 15 stars no coining.
    </sarcasm on>

    LIAR! COINER! BOTTER! Didn't you read Brutus' previous postings on this topic?! No, no, no, no, no. No normal human being can possibly farm all the necessary gems without somehow "cheating"! Why? Well, because the all-knowing Brutus has said so! That's why!

    </sarcasm off>

    Quote Originally Posted by Midlothian View Post
    I cannot estimate how many gems it's taken, but I generally send out 3-4 runs of 85 hits per day.
    I would say for a full 14 set with roughly 400 hits per day for a year, you've done pretty good. That's just shy of 150k farming runs. What have your drop rates been, and what has the ratio been, do you know offhand?


    Another guy on my server is 2 gears shy of a full 15 set. His are all 15, except for 1 which is 12 or 13, and another which varies as he keeps trying to upgrade it when he gets a thousand or so gems.

    One reason I made it a point to simply go straight from 0 to 15 was based on conversations with him, where he indicated (which I confirmed in my upgrades) that generally once you get past 13, the 14 and 15 rarely ever fail. Sort of like level 10, which seems to have an abnormally skewed failure rate. The problem with doing the "incremental" upgrade approach is that first upgrade from 12/13/14 to the next level seems to fail with a much higher-than-published rate (again, based upon feedback from this other guy) and you haved to start all over at 0 again anyway.


    Quote Originally Posted by Midlothian View Post
    This is na1, so over a year of pretty intensive farming to get to where I am, but with no guarantee of getting the other pieces to 15.
    If you're getting a 3:1 drop ratio on d/f, then I would wait until you have about 7.5kd/2.5kf, and then do an auto flawless from level 8. I think you'll find in most instances it will get you to level 15, with some gems to spare. if your d/f ratio is higher (like mine was towards the end, a 6:1 d/f ratio on drops) then I'd go w/ the auto flawless from lvl 7, since you have more delicates to burn in the process. In this latter case, wait until you have about 10k/2.5k

    If you increase your farming rate, I suspect you could upgrade 1 gear to 15 at the rate of roughly 1 every 4 to 6 weeks, which would put you roughly 40 to 60 weeks away.

    Off to lunch... bbl...
    Last edited by TentPig; 08-22-2011 at 12:07 PM.

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    Sounds more like you're simply jealous and want to harrass me. I'm not surprised, I definitely got the impression you had violent tendencies based on your old avatar where you had a wrestling choke-hold around some other dude.

    If I had my Freudian hat around, we could all have a field day psychoanalyzing you.
    Last edited by TentPig; 08-22-2011 at 01:21 PM.

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