Girls, lower your standards

[BigNorr]

No. I'm positive Shep will out-bid me.

But I'm not a sheep!

[rasterbee]

What in the hell are you freaks talking about?

[BigNorr]

What in the hell are you freaks talking about?

Charity what're you talking about!

[Morgan le Fay]

*Looks through pockets* got 50 cents...dang not enough, oh well I'll get over it.

Over it now.

[Mati2]

Yes, yes I do



$3 my good sir.

I can't believe I'm doing this ... but I kind of want to snuggle BigNorr. $3.01.

[DonDee]

The so-called research (article) fails to consider one big factor, MONEY. Rich men, physically attractive or not, will get laid. Ladies, try this, imagine how attractive Tom Cruise would be (or insert another Hollywood hunk here) if he was just an illegal alien working as fruit picker. Men on the other hand, will find Jessica Alba uber-sexy even if her job is slaughtering cows with a mallet (come to think of it, that would make her sexier! ). My point? The equation is far more complicated than "physical attractiveness" alone. The a-hole gene is not necessarilly expressed somatically as "good looks". Ugly men can be cheating *******s as well. And if they have the money (opportunity), they might just do it.

Oh yeah, I am in a serious monogamous relationship for 5 years now. I've never cheated.

[Mati2]

The so-called research (article) fails to consider one big factor, MONEY. Rich men, physically attractive or not, will get laid. Ladies, try this, imagine how attractive Tom Cruise would be (or insert another Hollywood hunk here) if he was just an illegal alien working as fruit picker. Men on the other hand, will find Jessica Alba uber-sexy even if her job is slaughtering cows with a mallet (come to think of it, that would make her sexier! ). My point? The equation is far more complicated than "physical attractiveness" alone. The a-hole gene is not necessarilly expressed somatically as "good looks". Ugly men can be cheating *******s as well. And if they have the money (opportunity), they might just do it.

Oh yeah, I am in a serious monogamous relationship for 5 years now. I've never cheated.

You are right that women consider success more than I think men do. Unfortunately we're all products of our society more than we'd like to be and I think on a subliminal level women still look for a provider. Although, I would hazard that "success" isn't necessarily purely monetary and is linked to class distinctions as well. For example, a lot of women would find a journalist more attractive than a plumber, despite the fact that the plumber probably makes more money because the journalist has a higher education level.

Personally I do not date guys without any ambition. That ambition doesn't have to be to work on Wall Street - many jobs that do not pay well offer personal satisfaction and benefit the community, such as teachers. But I think a lack of any kind of drive reflects poorly on their personality. I'm not sure if most men would find a lazy Jessica Alba sexy, but I'm not a man so I couldn't say. If Will Smith (oh god that man is so beautiful) were an illegal immigrant on the run, I probably wouldn't find him attractive.

[DonDee]

Thanks Mati2. I guess the thread title should be "Girls, RAISE your standards". If women want a nice happy relationship, they need to look beyond the labels "hot", "successful", "famous", etc. It should instead be honest, hardworking, ambitious, principled, caring, etc.

Oh yeah, about Jessica Alba, the only things that would make me not find her attractive would be if she was 1) shallow, 2) racist, 3) materialistic, 4) dumb (I might be forgetting some here, but you get the drift), other than that, she is the pefect physical specimen of the female kind.

[Mati2]

Maybe "raise" or "lower" are not really the right terms, so much as "change." I have high standards, but they are not entirely or even mostly based on physical appearance. Success as I defined it above is important, as is the ability to unfailingly make me laugh. Though, I won't deny some aspects of appearance are important. If the guy is not clean and doesn't make the effort to present his body to the best of his abilities by dressing nicely and keeping his hair groomed (everywhere) - that reflects poorly on him because those things are entirely under his control. And yes, all girls like killer smiles and bright eyes ... and personally, I like the guy to look strong enough to pick me up with ease.

[rasterbee]

I guess the thread title should be "Girls, RAISE your standards".

The thread is properly titled, the article only looks at people's physical appearance. If you would like to commission your own study on how men who are hard-working, resourceful, honest, thrifty, and earn a decent wage make better mates than lazy, shiftless bums feel free to make your own thread and title it however you please.