Attacking 10s with different combinations or techs.

[BertandErine]

I made this a while back, it didnt get much response but it appears to have a lot of views. Was wondering if this is helping anyone hit 10s sooner. Please leave your thoughts and opinions, as well as any mistakes i may have made.

Many people wait till they get Archery to lvl 10 and Compass to lvl 9 to start hitting lvl 10s........this is a waste of time, as you can hit them sooner while keeping fairly low losses.

Ok I am not going to include any rounds where the archers had to stop to fire on the warriors. And it will be assumed that your attack/MT is high enough that you dont need layers.

Side Note: npc lvl 10s have lvl 10 arch and walls so the ATs have a range of 2600

---If you are wanting to start hitting 10s and you have lvl 10 arch (with arch lvl 10 archers have 1600 range) think about this.

--Compass lvl 8 and 9 give you the same effect on a lvl 10 npc.
With Compass lvl 8 archer shave 450 speed, compass lvl 9 gives you 475 speed.

-With com lvl 8 you march 2250 range (2250-5200) puts you at 2950 in 5 rounds of marching
-With com lvl 9 you march 2375 range (2375-5200) puts you at 2825 in 5 rounds of marching

-Comp 8 you march to 2500 in 6 rounds, now in ats range, cant fire back
-Comp 9 you march to 2350 in 6 rounds, now in ats range, cant fire back

-Comp 8 to 2050, cant fire back
-Comp 9 to 1875, cant fire back

-Comp 8 to 1600, CAN fire back
-Comp 9 to 1400, CAN fire back
As you can see you have 3 full rounds of the ats attack b4 your archers kill them with both compass lvl 8 and 9, so why wait the extra 2 days for comp 9?


---If you have Arch 9(archers have 1540 range) and want to hit lvl 10s but dont want to wait for arch 10, think about this.

-With comp lvl 8 you march TO 2950 in 5 rounds of marching
-With comp lvl 9 you march TO 2825 in 5 rounds of marching

-Comp 8 you march to 2500 in 6 rounds, now in ats range, cant fire back
-Comp 9 you march to 2350 in 6 rounds, now in ats range, cant fire back

-Comp 8 to 2050, cant fire back
-Comp 9 to 1875, cant fire back

-Comp 8 to 1600, CANT fire back
-Comp 9 to 1400, CAN fire back

-Comp 8 to 1150, CAN fire back
As you can see here if you have compass lvl 9 with arch lvl 9 you get the same amount of rounds that the ats fire on you as above, but if you have comp 8 with arch 9 they get an extra round to fire on you.So why try to get lvl 10 arch b4 trying to hit 10s, when lvl 9 arch can get you the same losses as long as you have lvl 9 comp too.

Summery: Arch10 with Comp9 OR 8: AND Arch9 with Comp9 both have the same rounds that the ats fire on you, so you get the same losses. You can hit lvl 10s sooner if you go for arch 9 and comp 9 because compass lvl 9 takes much less time than arch 10. Matter of fact the only combination of arch and comp better than arch 9 and comp 9, is both to be at 10 (assuming your hero is good enough)

This was my first lvl 10 hit on 144, low attack and low techs.
http://bbs.evony.com/showthread.php?t=143611


I hope this makes you think a little different about your techs and lvl 10 npcs.
If anyone finds my math wrong pm me and ill fix it asap.

[BertandErine]

Was hoping to get some feedback from all you age1 vets that know battle mechs real well.............

[Zeusmighty]

this doesnt make sense?

[cstrauz]

This is the thing that you don't tell people so you can get ahead..

[GermainZ]

People farm 10s using researches less than 10?
Woah, I've been so slow expanding. :|

[BertandErine]

I don't really understand your guide. I started farming 10s on my newer server with Arch 9 and all other relevant military techs at 8. Initial losses with those techs and a low hero was about 8k.

this doesnt make sense?

This is all you need to know
"Summery: Arch10 with Comp9 OR 8, and Arch9 with Comp9 all have the same rounds that the ats fire on you."
so why wait for arch 10 to attack npcs, when arch 9 can get you the same amount of losses?, you just need comp 9 to go along with it


If you dont believe you need to figure out a way to understand my explination. In the mean time ill edit it and try to make it more savy understand
EDIT: Just did a little text editing, did it help?

[BertandErine]

Did adding color and altering some of the wording help anyone understand better?

[Lord Lion]

No it just messed with my eyes

[Lord Lion]

sorry i need atleast 2 more post to hit 15

[Prodigy the 5]

to be hones i thought this was already a known fact. But still nice to share with others