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    And that's why you can never close Pandora's box.

    I see it coming up often that people insist it was an intended mechanic due to its age. It's not an intended mechanic until design has stated that the mechanic works as intended. There are a lot of factors that go into bug triage, and bug fixing: impact, resource cost, risk (to the codebase or otherwise), time to fix, interaction with other open bugs, etc.

    While it was obvious that things were not working as intended, people used the exploit, and we understand why - it gave a significant advantage.

    A common clause in TOU/TOSs is that use of an exploit/bug/hole can be punished up to banning. We've made no attempts to suspend, finger wag, or ban anyone that used this exploit, nor will we for this one.

    As for people reporting it? I don't know, I know of only one report, and that was the one that I received. At the end of the day, the bug created a major imbalance, we fixed it, and we can move on to the next bug fixes and feature development.

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    In response to Evony saying capturing royals is part of the game, that has not been our position. Capturing heroes, definitely. Capturing what is supposed to be uncapturable and your reward for taking the (long) time to finish your royal hero quest, no.

    That is not to say players didn't spend a long time to capture royal heroes, I think in reviewing mail, a few had solid strategies to take a royal and it shows in their holding 20 royal heroes.

    I hope this thread continues with positive discussion.

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    Would it not have been polite to inform us the patrons that said issue was being resolved so as for us to avoid spending our hard earned cash on buying ports to capture said kings/queens just asking also why monitor for so long ? without informing us do ye think that said desision is going to breath new life into old servers i don't think so to be honest so why not just implement in new servers starting off just asking not stirring etc but as a consumer i feel like i have the right to ask this questions to be honest i feel like i have been taken advantage of and led down the garden path come spend money cap away queens kings we don't mind u buyig 30 dollar chests to acheive this goal if it was really in best interest of game a mail would have been sent to al mulitiple queen/king holders na the whole evony community stating said fact that it is deemed by evony against game rules to hold more then 1 royal that would have been the proper way to have dealt with said issue can i ask why a mail was not sent out ? also u have to acknowledge that queen/king caps where a big part of the game as ye said ye monitored said sitution and i would like to see how many active players lost their royals in comparions to non active players just another question i know ye might not answer any of my questions but i felt the need to ask them u can quote bugs and T@C and so forth but the fact is y knew that said issue was a problem and ye left it get worse so the majority of this problem is of yere own doing Thats my vent done i have not offended nor used base language and have asked some easy enough questions for yee to answer Thanking u for your time hugs and kiss Tal

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    To keep the discussion constructive, I do wish the change had applied to new & future servers only.

    I agree it created a big advantage (holding many royals), but that also encouraged alot of PvP. That was tremendous fun.

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    Here is a mail from Evony specifically calling it a FEATURE:

    <CS Email removed to adhere to the rules of the forum, by davemata>
    Last edited by davemata; 07-14-2011 at 11:09 AM. Reason: Removing the CS email.

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    And an attempt to level the playing field? Please, don't insult us. The have and have nots are million miles apart, and that has absolutely NOTHING to do with extra royals. The difference in the have and have nots is directly related to the amount of money spent. So you make a bigger player use a regular lvl 100 hero. His attack stat is 900 because of gear. The little player captures the hero and persuades him. Then he's a paltry 400 attack hero. Yeah.... That's a level playing field....

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    Here is a point of view from a player that hasnt been playing as long as the rest of you vets. I started on server26 I had no clue that royals were capturable until several players in my alliance started hitting the barons of enemy alliances. I thought it was part of game play and just played along, so in my opinion evony did wrong in letting this practice continue when they found the bug and not informing players about this so called bug. And seriously a player learns from other players so the outrage is mainly about players like me that thought this was an intended feature of the game and not a bug, spoils of war we called it.

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    I never knew it as a bug, therefore I didn't notify anybody of anything. There are so many ins and outs to this game, how could one possibly know how every single aspect is supposed to function?

    The reason I wanted extra royals was because of their high base stats. Wanting to capture them for no other reason than them being uncapturable makes zero sense to me.

    I had 4 royals in 1 city, and was only allowed a total of 11 heroes with a level 10 feasting hall. I was hoping for 14 but it didn't work.

    In my case, I created no upset players by getting multiple royals. They were all given to me by alliance members due to people quitting the server. (if this wasn't supposed to be allowed, I'm sorry, as stated above there's no way someone can know every in and out of the game)

    As I stated in the other thread, I think it's unfair to represent the situation of having multiple royals as "exploiting a bug" because Evony knew full well that we were able to do this and took no action that I'm aware of to stop it. They allowed it be part of the game. We played the game, exploiting nothing.

    Hope that answers your questions.
    Last edited by Deftil; 07-14-2011 at 10:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qalyl View Post
    BUT YOU HAVE MADE NO ATTEMPT TO RESTORE THE ROYALS THAT WERE TAKEN NOR HAS ANY EVONY REP ADDRESSED THAT.
    I have directly, on several occasions.

    To reiterate what I've stated previously on the subject since you did not read it: We will be making sure that all players who have finished the king/queen quest line will have a chance to have their royal again. When that is ready, we will notify players.

    Now that I have repeated myself multiple times on this subject, I will not repeat this statement again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Qalyl
    please do not imply that this was done to correct an imbalance
    I'm not implying that, I'm stating it.
    Last edited by davemata; 07-14-2011 at 11:10 AM.

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    My issue is I started the game later then everyone else. Never did I know this was a bug. I spent money, ports, troops, training and time to take these royals. They were taken from players, not historic cities.
    I'm done as well as a lot of other players. This was a poor move and a poor decsion on how you implemented it. The patch notes do not relay what was actually going to happen to use after maintenance.

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