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    My POV is, if it does all the things a player does (move troops, resources, build walls n shyte) just act as if it were a player. Kill him off like you would kill off a player... Tho i heard bots comfort regardless of the cooldown so that sux. I havent yet played that much to go against one since i was on a long break, and back in the days there were no bots so dont hate if im wrong..

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    Thread should be labeled...

    "" How to beat a bot ONLY if the bot user is not familiar with the ability of the bot they're using""

    My point...

    No matter how many methods you deploy to beat a bot user, the bot user will create a solution to your methods.
    the only true method to eliminating bots/macros are to fix the servers hosting the game and perhaps create a warden, something to scan a specific version that is released daily; Simple command line that creates a version with a variable.

    Why not do versions check? I mean it isn't hard at all; literally 3 days work at most and that is giving MORE than enough time. Version checker is when the server scans your flash browser to check the current version of the game. Let?s say Evony listened to smart people for once and added this technique.
    When you log on to the game you will get a "Firmware number/version".
    (Example: 091103_11 is static and can't change unless they update the source of the game.) So calling for a Var=1,Var=21 or put in an array. Doing this can create a non-static checker and updater that adds the Var to the end of the version, allowing you to COMPLETELY eliminate the bot because the user would have to recompile their version with the version Evony is using BECAUSE...

    WAIT FOR IT...

    The variable changes randomly when a user logs into the game, which means the server SETS the variable, then checks to see if the browser is running that current version and if it doesn't match the variable the server RANDOMLY set for the day (or whatever time scale you gave it before changing) then it resets browser so it can refresh and try setting the version to the servers current version.
    If the version doesn't match then you don't log on!

    Now where do I pick up my paycheck!?
    Last edited by FailSafe; 07-21-2011 at 01:07 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TentPig View Post
    I think account sitting is by far more prevalent than botting is. I haven't been involved in a single alliance where people haven't shared login information in order for their cities to get comforted whe under attack.

    Account sitting is, by far, one of the most common activities which is technically against the TOS that most players engage in.
    Acct sitting is not again TOS if you notify Evony of the fact that you will be away and someone will be watching their acct. Evony just fails to follow up to ensure that acct sharing is not happening anymore after the time frame has been set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FailSafe View Post
    If the version doesn't match then you don't log on!
    Unfortunately, flash programs can be decompiled, and undoubtedly bot developers would do so, see how it works, and program the necessary logic into their programs as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TentPig View Post
    Unfortunately, flash programs can be decompiled, and undoubtedly bot developers would do so, see how it works, and program the necessary logic into their programs as well.
    They can't because the server would be making random inputs into the variables from a file or database and then the server writes its random number to the browser or client forcing them to match. The bot would have to match the numbered version in order to log in, EVERY time . It would be random and impossible to track unless you hacked the file hosting the variables for that specific script. So good luck hacking Evony server.. Actually good luck hacking the server that is hosting the domain that hosts the file lol..

    Verios Checker, we use it all the time at BB.

    Works great for people who like to steal business software
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    A whole bunch of useless information, again, just like the last post on the last thread we are once again ignoring the fact that any config file that is even half way thought thru is going to take mixed attacks into account. Not to mention the simple fact that NOT EVERYONE closes gates for a scout bomb or sets a bot to do so, in fact there are few that think it's rather dumb to do so.
    .........another fine post by ian

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    Again its pointless since most of evonys biggest spenders are also multiplying alt alliance accounts and botters. So do you honestly think evony is going to do anything. Hell everyone knows 145 was full of bots, Evony finally got a huge amount of them. Hey np they all went to 153 now and its never been touched.
    Not a single persons been suspended for anything on 153 and because I cant accuse anyone by name or alliance or show proof on the forums its pointless because evony almost never reads complaint mails or at least it seems like they dont. Why would they remove most the players on 153.

    I say because when 155 comes out they will start over and Evony can make even more money since new accounts are what really brings in the bucks. So fix 153 so the real players can play without all the bs and che@ters. Everyone knows of plenty of ways to catch bots on evony. Seem them fixed with ease on other games. Evony isnt interested in losing most its player base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by albitzian View Post
    A whole bunch of useless information, again, just like the last post on the last thread we are once again ignoring the fact that any config file that is even half way thought thru is going to take mixed attacks into account. Not to mention the simple fact that NOT EVERYONE closes gates for a scout bomb or sets a bot to do so, in fact there are few that think it's rather dumb to do so.
    Agreed and allot of people forget its real players behind these bots. They can set it to make a ton of warriors or swords to shield from scout bombs the same way they would a none botted account. Stop assuming someones a bot and just beat them as if they weren't the best way to know if someones truely a bot is when they have no resources or food and somehow manage to relief for hours on end and you never get them under 10 loyal. Even then its possible to be a real player but less likely.

    A bot is just a personal program designed to do basic functions the player set up ahead of time. It cant defend agaist all possible attacks or strategy's So to beat a bot you gotta be smart prepared to beat it as you would if you scouted the same town and found the same troops and walls on a normal person.

    Time multiple waves beginning with a can opener followed by 99k archer 1k cavs runs or 99k cav with 1k scout runs, mix in a few timed scout bombs and run them over with a mech attack. If it closes gates on the mech just keep sending it and add a fair amount of transporters along for the ride and remove all their resources. You dont have to take their town for it to be a win. Just gotta kill it keep it from farming and remove the resources and above all else hit it everyday after that to keep it down.
    Last edited by Randorian; 07-22-2011 at 12:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Donald Trump View Post
    No offense to the rant of Rand here lol, but most people dont play evony 12-16 hours a day (your words) Its unlikely there gonna go through that trouble of hitting the same guy over and over everyday giving up there day. Especially with mech attacks. Lets focus on the people who are not shut-ins. Dont beat the bott, read up on them and use them. Why not? Its far more popular, easier, and evony sure isnt gonna do anything about it. Why waste your day when you can flip on the magic switch and go about your day, turn it off when your ready to play. Whats so wrong with that? Because its in Evony's terms of service? Evony has broken many laws, if they can break them, you can break there so called TOS. Go to facebook, and leave a message for Evonybottdoctor, Ill hook you up.
    Im sorry that you feel you must have a bot to play evony. Use to be bots were few and far between and skill was what was required to do well here. Youll probly be baned here anyway for advertising youll give people the bot. Like Ive said before I like playing evony the bot makes you lazy, makes you not realy pay attention to your alliance and as a host I feel its my job to look after everyone who is in my alliance. Im not here the whole 12-16 hours Im doing things but still clicking in and out every 20-30 mins or so and then Ill spend 6 hours or so constantly farming doing ques etc etc. Anyone can use the bot but that doesnt mean everyone has to use one to be good. Just because someone can do something they know is wrong, some of us choose to know the difference and have morals about those things.

    If evony installs a bot that will do the farming for me Im sure Id use that but I prefer to do my own ques and builds and then its exactly how I want a town and my army to be. Mechs are great but theres allot more to fighting then just hitting someone with mechs. If you try that with me youll lose your army I promise you that much. Enough said botting is a choice, I choose not to bot. Doesnt make me better then anyone else just my choice.

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    ohh im sorry, I didnt mention that I dont acually "play" evony anymore. Ive been there, done that, own the tee shirt company lol. No, Evony lost its play appeal for me a long time ago, theres just no end game, same ol suff everyday. This is simply a financial game for me now. But you brought up a interesting note worthy point, I would probably be banned for advertising, your right, odds are i will be. However, 5 minutes later I have a new account and doing it again. Ive seen many tips givin in these forums on how to stall these botts, some of them definatly hold water as far as effectivness, as a modder I cant deny that. But does evony impliment some of these tips, some should be commen sense practices? No, and they wont do it. This is just my view of the situation, I have no direct evidence to back up my claim, but evony wants botters. Visa warriors (people who spend often) set the pace of the game for the average player. Now I agree with Rand's statement that a bott isnt needed, I did just fine without one, but at the time I had alot of time to kill in front of the computer, alot of people dont have that luxury. Botters started popping up more frequently to keep up with the people spending there car payments on the game lol. Now this is where evony tolerates it. If these people didnt turn to the bott, odds are they would have just quit. But instead they keep playing because even though they may not have lots of items, they can atleast keep up with the player sittin on 50 vesta's and 100's of porters. I forgot who said it above, but the average botter never acually uses it to its full potential, its simply a farmer for them.
    The community can make there own mind up about if thats reasonable or not, its not my place or anyone elses to say if its wrong or right, but if Evony doesnt take any real steps to curb them, doesnt that kinda tell you something about there position with them? They may "say" they dont tolerate them, but they have done absolutly nothing to stop them.

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