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    It happens me often that I'm in game but not capable to do something because i receive @ emergency call and MUST go away! When I'm not responding on the captchas at that time, what are the results for me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TentPig View Post
    You're absolutely correct. Why? Because bot programmers will simply program around the captcha, either with a pop-up window where the player has to enter the captcha manually, or by using online sites like imagedecoder to do it for them.

    Then, a month from now, people will be right back here again, whining about botting...
    1. pop-up window -> if the person's online himself, why use a bot then? if the bot is logged in, the person cannot play in the client and vice versa.

    2. imagedecoder -> cannot read merged letters/numbers in the captcha

    3. human outsourcing -> how accurate are those really? they're often from a developing country in which english isn't their primary language. And these cost $. a huge deterrent for free bot-users.
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    Just a question, and it might be a silly question, but there was a claim that it was easy to beat a cheater's city.

    If that is the case, and botting is supposedly there to "protect the investment", then why would one cheat, if it was so easy to beat them, but one wanted to protect one's investment?

    I'm just a bit confused on that. Perhaps someone could clear that up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faunus View Post
    Obviously they getting the experience from getting 10's all day. Yes a no lifer can do the same, but with the amount of repetition it wouldnt happen. So what exactly is your contention for why bots are good? Okay bots dont teach battle mechs (Shocking i know). Yes you have to have some experience but thats the same as any player. I will even share my arguments

    1) Players with bots get an advantage with farming and building their cities.
    2) Ruins the competition towards the honest players. (Makes the playing field uneven)
    3) If bots are allowed to keep being used it will completely ruin the pvp part of the game. More bots-Less action. Players need to spend some time in the game to competition to arise.

    i see your arguement and it is valid but the thing is botting doesnt give any unfair advantage botting doesnt allow one to do anything another legit player couldnt do if time allowed coining makes for unfair playing fields bots do not

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    Quote Originally Posted by EVONITE View Post
    Im neither a botter nor coiner and what i dont understand is why everyone hates botters.

    You mention making the game fair and even by stopping the bots from farming to feed someones troops or filling flats or flippin gates during attacks which any person on any server can do if online.
    Im sure its been said all over the forums and im sure ill get alot of people hatin for sayin this and thats cool but the thing that sux for most people who love the game is that its been changed to benefit those who can afford to spend money on it. The medal drops suck and you have to be able to farm high lvl valleys to get promotions unlike earlier servers and the only way to do that is time unless you pay and if you cant pay it takes even longer because youve got a 2 milllion prest coiner a month into a new server random porting all over wipin out everyone he sees because the top 10 alliances are full of coiners who dont give the rest of us a chance to grow.
    No i dont have anything against coiners and understand without them there would be no evony for any of us to play but seriously how fun is it to just pop in and wipe out someone whos 1/10 or even 1/4 your size. I spend alot of time playing evony but im lucky to be able to pay my bills and theres no way i can spend hundreds or thousands of dollars on evony to compete with those who can.
    So i say if you really wanna make it fair and even give us 1 server of ss capabilities and dont allow coining on it and lets see what you mofos can do without your credit/bank cards.
    Another possibility is maybe keys, for all the pkgs were teased with by alliance members who coin, on the wheel which also seems rigged to benefit people who spend alot. Ive won 50 cents one time on server 43. On 121 my VH spent over 100 bux a week and won 1k cents at least 5 times in 3 months not to mention all the other good items won while i win resources and jr batts.
    My 3rd and final suggested possibility is to open more than one server a month so those who abandon ss servers due to lag dont all rush to the same new server and join a bunch of other coiners who think its cool to pick on the less fortunate.
    Now i personally would rather deal with a bot not allowing me to cap a city than have some real life pushover get get a god complex cuz his credit card allows him to be the tough guy at night and go around bullyin us poor lowly peasants who just llike a challenging game to play and ive never seen a bot do that.

    There is something in this that can be used. We all know that botters make up probably a great portion of evony now days. Alot of them are big spenders im sure. But using this Captchas will most likely cause alot of the botters to quit. But not using may cause alot of non botters to quit. Separating The 2 is not a bad idea. Maybe make things cost a bit more on the non protected server for botters. And give some extra perks to the legit players. I have seen some other games use this strategy. That way the players who do spend alot and dont want to give up the game, im sure most botters just dont have the time to play the game for real its pretty demanding. Both sides can choose where to go and there can be warning on non protected servers "there maybe botters". Both sides can keep playing and be happy. Evony doesnt take a hit in the pocket either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neko_lord View Post
    Just a question, and it might be a silly question, but there was a claim that it was easy to beat a cheater's city.

    If that is the case, and botting is supposedly there to "protect the investment", then why would one cheat, if it was so easy to beat them, but one wanted to protect one's investment?

    I'm just a bit confused on that. Perhaps someone could clear that up?
    ppl dont bot to protect thier stuff ppl bot to farm for mass resources build and build army i dont knw anyone who bots to defend every botter knows if ur offline you can lose every botters knows manually defending yourself is always the best option......

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalX View Post
    i see your arguement and it is valid but the thing is botting doesnt give any unfair advantage botting doesnt allow one to do anything another legit player couldnt do if time allowed coining makes for unfair playing fields bots do not
    The unfair advantage is:
    - Being able to play even if you're not physically present.

    That in itself is the essence of what a bot is.

    Coining is gaining an advantage using hard earned $.
    And rightly so.

    Why would one spend $ if they dont gain anything from it. Duh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melri View Post
    The unfair advantage is:
    - Being able to play even if you're not physically present.

    That in itself is the essence of what a bot is.

    Coining is gaining an advantage using hard earned $.
    And rightly so.

    Why would one spend $ if they dont gain anything from it. Duh.

    so is having no life a unfair advantage also?

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    1) Players with bots get an advantage with farming and building their cities.
    2) Ruins the competition towards the honest players. (Makes the playing field uneven)
    3) If bots are allowed to keep being used it will completely ruin the pvp part of the game. More bots-Less action. Players need to spend some time in the game to competition to arise.

    what if everyone can bot. then it will be fare for everyone. oh and there will be alot more pvp wars. just no time wasting farming. only having fun. imagine what a wonderfull game it will be for everyone LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melri View Post
    The unfair advantage is:
    - Being able to play even if you're not physically present.

    That in itself is the essence of what a bot is.

    Coining is gaining an advantage using hard earned $.
    And rightly so.

    Why would one spend $ if they dont gain anything from it. Duh.

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