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Thread: Captchas Now Testing on ss57 and ss60

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melri View Post
    Wont work now 350...

    Remember, the bots now have a captcha window built-in..
    AWWW LAME!

    Quote Originally Posted by nanaki View Post
    yu answered your own question there im afraid
    Thats why i proposed the alternate of having it pop up 1 minute after login.. No ones gonna login a bot for 1 minute of work. However Melri pointed out the error to it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thantium View Post
    Anyone notice that by far the majority of the people opposed have less then 20 posts... and the people for it have hundreds....

    just saying, it is an interesting data set.
    What i find interesting is that as the "Customer Service Lead" you have 100 posts. Which would put you in the category of those with 20 posts.

    Just saying, it's an interesting and yet oh so curious fact.


  3. #833

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    Using Capcha's this way is a very bad idea..

    Evony is a very timing sensitive game.. 1 sec too late, and you've just:

    *Farmed an empty NPC
    *Left gates open for a Scout Bomb
    *Killed your otherwise perfect mech wave coz you failed to scout right before it landed.. etc..

    You get the idea...

    That's why everyone hates the lag.. Because it messes up the timings (among other things)..

    So.. in order to fix that, you come up with this? More delays, popups and disconnections?

    Sure, a lot of botters will stop playing.. but so will a lot of non-botters..

    It's annoying to be asked "Are you Human"? every hour or so.. Even those that claim to love it will eventually have to admit that... You see, what they really love, is the HOPE that this will fix the lag and stop all the cheats.. Some are so blinded that they will endorse anything that promises to do that..

    On the bright side.. Less players will mean less lag.. Oh.. and more available full NPC's to farm.. But that also means less people in your alliance, and less people to play against..

    Intermittent Capcha's punishes everyone and it will do so forever. Let's say it worked famously, and got rid of all the botters.. Can you removed it then so you don't annoy your players anymore? No, right? Coz the botters will just return..

    Actually, the botters WILL return anyways (coz they have very good devs)... What then? More frequent Capchas?

    Your implementation of Capcha is kinda like having everyone submit to drug tests, 3 x's a day, just because there are some people using drugs.. Not really very fair to the non-drug users...

    Perhaps instead of Visual Capchas.. You might want to focus more on ensuring that no third party software can login to your servers.. An internal capcha of sorts, between YOUR client and YOUR server..

    You control both, right? I don't see why you can't have them pass on Security Tokens to each other completely insulating the end users from such processes...

    If it fails.. boom.. Disconnect all you want or delay all you want.. Maybe even temp ban the IP for a few hours (can't perm ban coz IP's change)...

    While your at it.. Verify those emails being used to create accounts!

    Oh, and let your programmers out more often.. they seem to be overworked and isolated too much. The better connected they are to the gaming community, the better Evony (as a game) will get..

    The most important part? Remember that we (the players) are all customers. Doesn't matter if they bot or not, or if they coin or not. We are all customers of Evony, and should be treated as such. It would benefit your purse a LOT to remember that once in a while..

    Have a great day!

  4. #834

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    i'd like to thank you for this great attempt. Yes lag has totally disappeared & now we all have a fair chance to play this game. Im originally from s60 & back then in s60 some players used to bot n later they got banned for botting. So after that none of the s60 players dared to use bot as we all love this game. Then we went through a few mergers like ss16 ss49 & still then there was no botting but when we joined ss60. We ve encountered players with 20-30 million of troops. Its only possible if you use bot for your feeders. SS60 has like over 100 feeder alliances that are run by bots. So to survive against those giants even the honest players started botting,which is true. But now that botting is gone, we will have a chance to play a fair game.

    Thank you evony

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pantea View Post
    I have no need to bot, I rather get enjoyment out of the game with using skill. An who is mad, the only one that is suggestively mad is you by your post. Because you know you will be nothing without having to rely on the crutch of a bot I suppose.



    Almost forgot, nice false bravado with ban this account. You just make another and continue your whining. Since your true skill set is being threaten.
    lol 156 is right around the corner. let's have a 1 on 1 and see since i 'will be nothing'

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    Said by representatives of Evony who of course get extra benefits so what do they care what goes on to the other players ?
    Hey it's ok for a captcha to come up in the middle of ur playing it's only 1 time every 2 hours.

    then it will be sooner if u screw it up, so if u mistype it cuz cannot read it then u get 6 every 2 hrs that is retarded . To be fair I have thought of a few other things we can do to improve the game for all players :

    1) Yea maybe I can say instead well I will only farm for my troops 1 every 2 days
    so then other whiners who don't take the time to get where I am can feed their troops

    2) Better yet just put a new rule instead of capcha's I will agree to kick myself in the sac
    every hour cuz that may be more painful , but at least I can determine when I do it, and I am
    smart enough not to do it while I am under attack or attacking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thantium View Post
    Anyone notice that by far the majority of the people opposed have less then 20 posts... and the people for it have hundreds....

    just saying, it is an interesting data set.
    Thantium you say that but how many people have been suspended?how many accounts banned?how many posts removed?All because evony doesent like to see people disagree with them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woark View Post
    there are 2 kinds of people that are against botters: the ones who are mad bc they dont use one and the admins/mods who play the servers and get theirs handed to them as well.
    the only reason anyone complains about them is because they cant compete with them. they'll hide behind 'oh it's against the TOS so i'm against it' and 'the admins/mods will do something about it'. bull s***. that's all it is. any mod or w.e that reads this, feel free to ban this account. im done with it
    I don't bot..I am mad because I work very hard at my acct..b0tters dont work at it..I've been attacked so many times by b0tter n b0tters alt for over year. Did you ever try killing a b0tters acct (war city)? It's not fun. Have you tried taking a city on a bot?? It can be done but very hard to do.
    Not that a guy uses a b0t on his acct, or just 1 alt. NO a lot of ppl have about 6 alt b0tting acct or more.. Look at stat's and see all thy accounts that remain 'active' but thy original owners quit. Over 1/2 my server is alt b0t acct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slingblades View Post
    will they be easy to read, I had bad eye sight and have trouble reading them?
    I second this...So often those things run the letters together etc. In addition, somehow this has to be made to not interrupt active usage - for example, when we are sending out attacks or being attacked.
    Last edited by kistari; 08-03-2011 at 06:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sami View Post
    I don't bot..I am mad because I work very hard at my acct..b0tters dont work at it..I've been attacked so many times by b0tter n b0tters alt for over year. Did you ever try killing a b0tters acct (war city)? It's not fun. Have you tried taking a city on a bot?? It can be done but very hard to do.
    Not that a guy uses a b0t on his acct, or just 1 alt. NO a lot of ppl have about 6 alt b0tting acct or more.. Look at stat's and see all thy accounts that remain 'active' but thy original owners quit. Over 1/2 my server is alt b0t acct.

    yes I love attacking botters cities, bots are predictible, some can even be tricked into closing gates with a few scout bombs timed with your trans and they have food, you dont need to bot when u feed off the botters. now taking the city may be a little harder but i have also done that get close enough, hit often enough it can be done, but its the food i am really after, last big botter i took fed me 20 bill food and 500 mil lumber and iron in a matter of a few minutes. i dont get why everyone is so scared of them, they my favorite fast food stops.


    While your at it.. Verify those emails being used to create accounts!

    Oh, and let your programmers out more often.. they seem to be overworked and isolated too much. The better connected they are to the gaming community, the better Evony (as a game) will get..

    The most important part? Remember that we (the players) are all customers. Doesn't matter if they bot or not, or if they coin or not. We are all customers of Evony, and should be treated as such. It would benefit your purse a LOT to remember that once in a while..

    Have a great day!
    very well said +rep .. email verification for new accounts, why hasnt that been done?
    Last edited by ~Jade~; 08-03-2011 at 06:48 PM.

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