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Thread: Captchas Now Testing on ss57 and ss60

  1. #1001

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    i agree with you 100%

    the game will not function the way it is meant to if game play is paused every 30 min as some people have said and these people have perfect eysight and no other problems
    and cant enter in this so called simple code ?????
    the worst part is that these attacks are all timed if u are not able to access your account
    to move troops in or out or Evin change your wall defense to suit the incoming attacks

    it just makes game play retarded

    i agree with fixing the bot situation but envny u guys are way out there to much magic mushroom tea i thinks if u think this is a sensible idea

    this system has 1 pro is will temporary stop bottling for a few minutes


    on the other hand people wont be able to access there account due to cant make out the letters /numbers

    will lose there citys due to there game being paused for them few vital minutes

    i know if i was online and my game play just stopped lets say for a minimum of 3 minutes to a max of 15 min

    then came online and 43 attacks had landed wich could of been prevented

    I WOULD QUIT EVONY 100% i am not a big coiner but i have probably spent 1000 dollar over the long time i have been playing

    and i would except for a program that i payed for and put this might sound sad so much of my life in to well lets be realistic its like a fringing second home

    to turn around and basically end my game because of a extra silly code cop on to yourself s

    thats my rant over again i dont bot but spend a hell of a lot of time online

    phew takes a big breath in and exhales slowly

  2. #1002

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    I understand people have dyslexia, I also get that means that words and numbers get jumbled up depending on what type of dyslexia you have. But a dyslexic person is still able to look at first letter/number then enter it, then second and so on. do them one by one, dyslexia does not prevent you from doing that.

    I agree that the captcha's seem extremely difficult to read so that needs to be addressed and maybe a delay button which can be used once on each captcha to delay it 10mins whilst you finalise attacks and things might sort that problem (if that is possible). Either way if it helps stop botting I am all for it

  3. #1003

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    Quote Originally Posted by wishuwood View Post
    Salutations!

    Comme vous avez sans doute remarqu?, nous avons mis en place un "Captcha" syst?me qui fonctionne pour enlever les robots ? partir du serveur. La plupart des joueurs ne verront une Captcha une ou deux fois par jour, et il leur demandera de saisir quelques lettres sur leur clavier pour s'assurer qu'ils sont une personne r?elle (et non pas un bot emb?tants).

    Nous testons ce sur le serveur et le ss57 ss60 comme un pr?curseur de rouler sur plusieurs serveurs. Nous avons mis cela de fa?on ? minimiser l'effet sur les joueurs l?gitimes, et de maximiser l'effet sur les tricheurs. Voici wow ?a fonctionne:
    Au cours de votre exp?rience de jeu, vous aurez un pop ?cran Captcha au hasard pendant que vous jouez.
    Vous avez 5 tente de r?pondre le Captcha, si vous ne l'obtenez pas, qui est consid?r?e comme une r?ponse incorrecte.
    Si vous obtenez 4 r?ponses incorrectes ou que vous fermez la fen?tre Captcha, vous aurez besoin pour r?pondre correctement Captcha pour continuer ? jouer.
    Si vous r?solvez un Captcha, ce sera plus long avant que l'on vous demande encore une fois. Si vous vous trompez, vous aurez une autre plus t?t.
    La plupart des joueurs ne verrez qu'une fois tous les Captcha de quelques heures.
    Notre objectif est que le syst?me Captcha d'aider ? nettoyer le serveur de bots, donner de vrais joueurs de l'avantage, et r?duire les probl?mes de latence. Nous avons d?j? vu les performances du syst?me Captcha am?lioration sur les serveurs de test. Les captchas sont partie int?grante de notre engagement ? maintenir amusant Evony et ?quitable pour tout le monde!

    Merci de jouer et nous allons vous voir sur le champ de bataille!

    Cordialement,

    L'?quipe Evony
    Bien qu'il y a des fautes mais bon! Bravo!
    Au moins, je sais que, chuis pas le seul francophone ici lol

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    Here's some scenarios why this will not work.

    1. The captcha Evony's chosen is one of the most impossible to read I have ever seen. It does not, as has been stated in previous posts, give you the ability to refresh the captcha when you can't read the one presented to you or give you the ability to hear the captcha characters through audio. This discriminates against quite a chunk of the population, those with bad eyesight and those with dyslexia and other reading difficulties and I know a great deal of people who play Evony have these. Even a person such as myself without these difficulties finds it nigh impossible to decipher the captcha solution that evony has chosen to implement.

    2. So I'm in a war situation, I have 2 cities near a target and I'm camp-timing 18-20 waves at this target. Captcha pops up in the middle of all this and I have to start again, I get it wrong because as stated above its almost impossible to read, so I'm camptiming for a second time and poof here's another one. Now I can't fight my target.

    3. I'm trying to insta-capture a 10 from 4 cities - same deal as above.

    4. I'm defending - switching between my gates, medic, feasting to open/close, heal and dismiss captured heroes - captcha pops up - can't get it right - lose my walls/troops/res etc.

    5. I'm camptiming some reinforcements to a fellow alliance member who is being attacked - captcha pops up - delays it - I miss my window to send and he loses his walls/troops/res etc.

    The scenarios where this could cause a player damage to both their account and their game play through no fault of their own, are wide and far.

    For these reasons I'm thoroughly against it.
    Last edited by TheLadyOfTheLake; 08-04-2011 at 08:29 AM. Reason: tidied it up corrected some spelling

  5. #1005

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingFrankson View Post
    I understand people have dyslexia, I also get that means that words and numbers get jumbled up depending on what type of dyslexia you have. But a dyslexic person is still able to look at first letter/number then enter it, then second and so on. do them one by one, dyslexia does not prevent you from doing that.

    I agree that the captcha's seem extremely difficult to read so that needs to be addressed and maybe a delay button which can be used once on each captcha to delay it 10mins whilst you finalise attacks and things might sort that problem (if that is possible). Either way if it helps stop botting I am all for it
    But a dyslexic person is still able to look at first letter/number then enter it, then second and so on. do them one by one, dyslexia does not prevent you from doing that

    if it was only that easy yes that dose work some times but what really happens is the brain still mixes up them letters it will still see the full string
    and evin do u are concentration on just 1 of them letters u can see the rest
    so your brain lets say plays tricks on you it will still jumble up them letters it might not happen all the time but it will happen it might take 3 attempts to get it right as u get confused more after the first time wich can leave the person feeling very let down in them self's

    wich people would call SILLY MISTAKES people with a high case of dyslexia have major issues with this its not only they mix the words up the numbers letters seem to move aswell going from diffrent shades and shapes that can be a issue if the program dose not function to suit people with those needs

  6. #1006

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    PS - ss57 is lagging awfully right now.. i LOVE the spinny clock.

    cant do anything in game and having trouble staying connected...

    capcha still seems to be working great though.... if i could hold a connection to the server long enough to see one and not have to fight network connection errors.

    Yay Evony! keep up the GREAT work!
    </sarcasm>


  7. #1007

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLadyOfTheLake View Post
    Here's some scenarios why this will not work.

    1. The captcha Evony's chosen is one of the most impossible to read I have ever seen. It does not, as has been stated in previous posts, give you the ability to refresh the captcha when you can't read the one presented to you or give you the ability to hear the captcha characters through audio. This discriminates against quite a chunk of the population, those with bad eyesight and those with dyslexia and other reading difficulties and I know a great deal of people who play Evony have these. Even a person such as myself without these difficulties finds it nigh impossible to decipher the captcha solution that evony has chosen to implement.

    2. So I'm in a war situation, I have 2 cities near a target and I'm camp-timing 18-20 waves at this target. Captcha pops up in the middle of all this and I have to start again, I get it wrong because as stated above its almost impossible to read, so I'm camptiming for a second time and poof here's another one. Now I can't fight my target.

    3. I'm trying to insta-capture a 10 from 4 cities - same deal as above.

    4. I'm defending - switching between my gates, medic, feasting to open/close, heal and dismiss captured heroes - captcha pops up - can't get it right - lose my walls/troops/res etc.

    5. I'm camptiming some reinforcements to a fellow alliance member who is being attacked - captcha pops up - delays it - I miss my window to send and he loses his walls/troops/res etc.

    The scenarios where this could cause a player damage to both their account and their game play through no fault of their own, are wide and far.

    For these reasons I'm thoroughly against it.
    AND... I keep logged on a day to stop spies seeing my logon times.
    I have never used a BOT in my life - I don't see how that is 'gaming'!

    EVONY! You have an awful lot of thinking to do before you implement this.

    1/ The illegality of not offering an audible version of the 'key' for those partially sighted

    2/ The abovementioned scenarios

    3/ The millions of users who do not wish to be constantly annoyed with pop-ups

    4/ For everything you introduce, there will be those that can program against it, and a new generation of BOT will be invented.

    I, for one, will not be playing a game where I have to keep inputting information and letting spies know when you are online

    THINK ABOUT IT!

    Do you want to lose millions of 'genuine players', that have never used a BOT?

    Looks like I'll have to find another game to fill my days/weeks/months/years ... hmm, I can feel my XBox calling out to me again
    Last edited by BamberBoozle; 08-04-2011 at 08:59 AM.

  8. #1008

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    Evony should add a refresh button for the captchas because some letters are very hard to understand.


    Evony doit ajouter le bouton Refraichir pour les captchas car certaines lettres sont tres dur a lire
    Thx

  9. #1009

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    French or English, either way, this is still a good idea that needs a LOT of rethinking before it can be implemented I think.
    Manual verification? Sure, no problem.
    Evony's Captchas? BIG problem.

    The fact is that every time I've had to try to enter a captcha, I've missed at least 20% of them. Not just on Evony I mean, on every site. Evony's captchas are especially difficult to decipher. Why not just a mail that has to be responded to in a short amount of time? That would allow people to attack uninterrupted, and still allow for a manual verification without the pesky hieroglyphics that come up on captchas.
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    Will the captchas stop people from sharing their logons and letting their alliance babysit their accounts 100% of the time? What about stopping people from using multiple accounts on the same server? I'm just curious because it seems to me that account sitting is actually worse for game play than botting. I can beat a bot; kill troops, loot resources...I've yet to beat a sitter/pilot.

    Also, you think that this will clear up your npcs? What about the guys using 10+ accounts for farming? They'll still logon each of the 10 and send out their farmers by hand, meaning those npc fields will still be getting hit and they'll still be generating billions of food to feed their massive armies on their main accounts.

    Bottom line is, nothing significant changes.

    It cracks me up how people are so focused on the "botters" but ignore everything else. Sorry guys, I think the people sharing their logons with their mates to avoid ever losing a town are the ones ruining the game. It IS a war game afterall, and that methodology renders WAR obsolete, directly opposed to the entire intent of the game!

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