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11th day of captcha implementation and botters don't have a permanent solution
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11th day of captcha implementation and botters don't have a permanent solution
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Yeah yeah yeah everyone knows that bots don't have a perm solution, how many times are you people gonna say that? Bring something new to the table.
149 pages and it's all the same things being repeated over and over. It's pretty obvious Evony isn't going to listen to the complaints. So unless you have something nice to say, Evony won't give a damn.
You missed the big bot bans we had in 2009 and early 2010 then, as you weren't around for the 2009 bans, and very likely disinterested and/or did not know that they existed for the 2010 bans...
While this may be "Round One" for you, this is "Round Two" for others. Please do not disparage the experiences of those of us who have suffered because of this and other forms of cheating for much longer than you now claim you have even been aware of it.
Part of my last job dealt with Information Security. Any reputable instructor in Information Security will tell you that in order for you to understand that which you are trying to combat, you have to learn about the methods used against you.
So, in a sense, you are partially correct that one would've had to investigate what they did, but that investigation does not have to mean personal experience. Simply reading about the capabilities can suffice.
Multi-accounting is actually much, much, much, much further out of their control. Due to the way the internet works, there is no way to be 100% sure that a single IP address belongs to a single individual. This is because of the IPv4 address space exhaustion and the implementation of Network Address Translation (NAT) and its' supplement, Port Address Translation (PAT), so as to conserve the number of IPv4 addresses being used.I think the only reason they went after botting in the first place is because it was a cheat that was out of their control and they were not making money from it.
Then I challenge you to provide an alternative. Please make sure to include the Cost-Benefit Analysis, the Return on Investment, and have at least a minimum of a Mission Statement, as well as the Customer / Operational Requirements, Structural Requirements, Architectural Requirements, Functional Requirements, and Non-Functional Requirements.I think we both want the same thing. You want it using this atrocious method and I think there is a better way. I just hate the thinking that something is better than nothing. It is not in this case.
All of what I have listed above would be the processes involved in a software engineering project, long before any actual software coding takes place.
It is far easier for you, and those against this process, to shoot it down with a bunch of naysaying than it is for you to come up with an actual workable alternative.
Not your job, you say? Oh well. Then have the courage of your convictions and vote with your feet and leave.
so when is this gonna get rolled out too all servers so everyone can have a taste of captcha?
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If Evony really wants to get rid of botting, multis and account sharing...
Why don't they make a security check client-side?
Couple this with another security check server-side, and only when both have been passed will a connection be established..
That sure beats multis quite handily, unless VMs are used, which 99% or more of the users here don't have any idea about..
Also locks down account-sharing.
Imaging a sitter trying to logon an offline account being hit, only to be faced with a network connection error.. due to the sitter's unique Client ID being different from the real account holder's![]()
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As you responded to me, there is one line that you may have overlooked.
As you see I noted that there were other posts that had given ideas to Evony. I have no clue how this programming works and evidently know less than you about how internet IP adresses work. I am the hardware guy. If its in a box on the desk in front of me, I can diagnose and fix it. So I will leave the internet to you and the bot finder to the smart guys in the other posts.I did not win a victory here Neko, far from it. My thinking was that there had to be a better way and maybe Evony did listen to a few of those smart guys posts about how they could do it.
As you said, if you have been here for that long, botters upset you that much and Evony really has done nothing to fix it, then I say to you the same. Have the courage of your convictions and vote with your feet and leave.
Last edited by Jaftica; 08-06-2011 at 09:51 PM.
Because decompiling Flash programs are, to borrow from Geico, "so easy a caveman can do it".
SIDs and/or GUIDs eh? Thantium mentioned a USB dongle that people would pay the shipping fee to receive, or something like that, and the crowd roared in opposition. Not only that, so long as the functionality is optional, it is incomplete, and people will still cheat until they can't cheat anymore.Imaging a sitter trying to logon an offline account being hit, only to be faced with a network connection error.. due to the sitter's unique Client ID being different from the real account holder's![]()
please bring the captcha to SS58!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you can test it here as well, we need rid of these bots, today i have been spammed by one of them for hours now, only 1 scout attacks and almost 2k of them so far, and i dont see a end in sight
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