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Thread: Captchas Now Testing on ss57 and ss60

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pantea View Post
    I seen a few pages back. A good suggestion, random across the board to all players on capthas to ensure no one is screwed with timing. That all get it at the same time on a server at random times on the server.
    Bad suggestion. Doing it to everyone at once doesn't guarantee any reduction in "critical moment" potential, as everyone will have their own different "critical moments".

    Further, it punishes everyone at the same rate, all the time. I agree with their proposal of trying to punish the cheaters more and the non-cheaters less. Going to an "everyone at the same time" removes the capability for honest players to be hassled less, unless they hassle everyone less, negating the usefulness partially or completely.

    Finally, no matter how "random" it might seem, doing it all at the same time will eventually establish a pattern, giving bot developers a way to establish when the captcha is going to show up so that they can code the application to just simply exit and wait for the time to pass, then sign back on again.
    Last edited by neko_lord; 08-07-2011 at 01:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melri View Post
    Woops my previous post just got squashed

    Maybe if i say this, my post will survive:

    Evony 11 Botters 0

    11th day of captcha implementation and botters don't have a permanent solution
    Mel, you are dellusional if you do not think there is a solution pending. What makes you think evony is "winning"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoManyFools View Post
    Mel, you are dellusional if you do not think there is a solution pending. What makes you think evony is "winning"?
    because he's evony cheerleader

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    Quote Originally Posted by Studles View Post
    Really the ONLY difference between a botter and a human is that a bot works 24/7...

    Technically a bot does not lag the servers because it logs on and plays exactly how a human would. If botting causes lags then so do the no-life players who play 24/7. Botting is NOT cheating because if it was then real players who play 24/7 would be considered cheating as well.
    Last time I checked, human players don't relog the system every 20mins (might be longer, I'm not sure)

    Additionally, last time I checked, the TOS of Evony was that no 3rd-party helper could be used... thus, botting is cheating. There is no argument that can be made that justifies botting as being within the rules of Evony.


    Quote Originally Posted by Studles View Post
    Why not keep bots and everyone get one so we can focus on the things that are truely unfair, coiners.
    You are aware that Evony is a business, and providing a (laughingly) free game, they need those coiners in order to continue providing to those who don't coin? You started playing a game that told you in the initial stages that you could spend coin to get ahead, don't whine about it now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Studles View Post
    Honestly if bots were the cause of lagging then blame the hard working players who play 24/7 too because a bot logs in as if a human logs in. It has to be the software they use for the servers that causes lag or them constantly scanning for bots.
    Refer above regarding a bot logging on multiple times per hour.
    Additionally, there are bots that build troops in small increments, and some to play the market, posting small bids constantly to drive prices up or down.
    Not to mention the SpamBots, last time I checked, a human isn't likely to sit at a computer for 12hrs straight, sending 9waves of spam at someone every 50secs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Studles View Post
    I personally think you that you think you know everything about bots. You need to think about it before commenting again. Players and bots are almost exactly identical or else they would not be this hard to find.
    Perhaps before you tell someone else off about not understanding bots, you should research them yourself. Clearly it is YOU who knows nothing of the topic on which he is commenting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imhotep88 View Post
    . Instead of having indvidual players interupt their game to stop and type a captcha why not just pause the ENTIRE server? Then everyone is entering the code at the same time and no-one is getting one over on their handicapped opponent, once EVERYONE has entered the code correctly and we're all sitting comfortably and ready to go un-pause the game and we all continue. Genius huh?

    good idea in principle, but at the momebt the captvhas evony have are unreliable, it takes many attempts to get them right sometimes. so unfortunately if an attack is in place it will favor the lucky one who gets decent code
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    Quote Originally Posted by nanaki View Post
    so when is this gonna get rolled out too all servers so everyone can have a taste of captcha?

    not until it actually works i hope
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruudong1 View Post
    u lose players u lose money stop this madness its not stopping botters its not clearing up any lag
    all it is doing is sticking a knife in your customers backs
    Nicely put.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalee View Post
    Last time I checked, human players don't relog the system every 20mins (might be longer, I'm not sure)

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    not aware that bots do this either. the botted players in my alliance [much higher than the 25% some are quoting - not sure if that is server wide, but our alliance is only rank 35 with 72 members so assume others are higher %] dont show up in the members lists as re logged very often. 2/3 times a day if that, not including when they actually are on chatting.

    Plus i sometimes have to log on/of when going to different servers, my browser slows up with multiple evony windows open. i know npt a good pooter lol. so i do log in and out alot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imhotep88 View Post
    Instead of having indvidual players interupt their game to stop and type a captcha why not just pause the ENTIRE server? Then everyone is entering the code at the same time and no-one is getting one over on their handicapped opponent, once EVERYONE has entered the code correctly and we're all sitting comfortably and ready to go un-pause the game and we all continue. Genius huh?
    Not particularly

    How is Evony supposed to know that everyone is looking at the screen at that moment?

    When I played, I would play at work. (sanctioned of course)
    But whilst at work, work came first, and my Evony screen could be un-monitored for hours. Is everyone supposed to be on pause until I return?

    Additionally, I would leave Evony running while I went out, so that I could scroll back on chat to see if I'd missed anything important. Again, should everyone be on pause while I pick up the groceries?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imhotep88 View Post
    Its like playing soccer and during a penalty shoot-out asking the Goalkeeper not to move..

    Just thought id share my 2 cents with ya'll which is 2 cents more than ima be sharing with Evony
    Lmao. the fans wil kill the goalkeeper. Imagine, last miniute of the game, scores tied. Lionel Messi in full swing, running past the defenders, one on one wit the goal keeper bout to shoot, about to score, about to win.....Bam CAPTCHAS!!!

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