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    For what it's worth, I see I have a red flag.

    I challenge anybody to look up my posts and say I have NOT posted in the best interest of the Evony community.

    I guess this is something like the old witch hunt test;
    • I do not like what you are saying
    • As such we tie your hands and feet
    • We throw you into the water
    • There, you sunk so you are a witch!


    All because you care about a game?

    If this is the case, please add more red flags whoever, I will have them shown proudly next to my name.

    Edit:
    The reason for my little red flag:

    From my post:
    The red flagger's comment:
    tired of the "coining is cheating" pseudo-argument. It isn't. It might not be "fair", but it is not "cheating".
    Well I am so sorry you are tired of it (not). Hower what I posted that got me the red flag:
    But take a new server. Within weeks there are people porting around with 1mil pres. Porting is not issue. Why? Coiners. Yet this is allowed in game play and you are at a disadvantage if you cannot coin (or not as much) as the next person. From a moral perspective this is also cheating and on par with botting.

    So we have botter bullies and coiner bullies, both which reflects nothing of fair gameplay or ability, nor the effort put in.
    .....

    "Evony legal" cheating aka coining also can be beaten. I capped the city of a coiner that was "hired" to take me out. Yes, I also coined and I took him two days later.
    Tired of it or not, it's the truth and it cannot be denied it gives the party unable to coin at a disadvantage - which going right back to what I was commenting on, to put it in perspective, Dawnseeker's comment:
    part of our commitment to keeping Evony fun and fair for everyone!
    I also said "Evony legal" cheating, which I clearly stated I also do.

    So this witch sinks with honor and truth to the hypocrisy of what is most likely a fellow coiner.

    If anything, it shows the mentality of some forum members.
    Last edited by macquari; 08-07-2011 at 01:17 PM.

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    Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    Greetings!

    As you may have noticed, we've implemented a "Captcha" system that works to remove bots from the server. Most players will only see a Captcha once or twice per day, and it will ask them to enter a few letters on their keyboard to make sure they are a real person (and not a pesky bot).

    We are testing this on server ss57 and ss60 as a precursor to rolling it out on more servers. We have implemented this in a way to minimize the effect on legitimate players, and maximize the effect on cheaters. Here's wow it works:

    During your gameplay experience you will have a Captcha screen pop up at random while you're playing.
    You have 5 tries to answer the Captcha, if you don't get it, that is considered one incorrect answer.
    If you get 4 incorrect answers or you close the Captcha window, you'll need to answer Captcha correctly to continue playing.
    If you solve a Captcha, it will be longer before you are asked again. If you get it wrong, you'll get another one sooner.
    Most players will only see a Captcha once every few hours.

    Our goal is for the Captcha system to help clear the server of bots, give real players the advantage, and reduce problems with latency. We've already seen the Captcha system improving performance on the test servers. Captchas are part of our commitment to keeping Evony fun and fair for everyone!

    Thanks for playing and we'll see you on the battlefield!

    Best regards,

    The Evony Team

    once or 2wice a day
    then its every few hour ? which 1 is it ??????????

    1...During your gameplay experience you will have a Captcha screen pop up at random while you're playing.

    1> GIVING U A HANDICAP U CANT FUNCTION YOUR CITY TO DEFEND R ASSIST YOUR ATTACKS
    __________________________________________________ _____________-
    2,You have 5 tries to answer the Captcha, if you don't get it, that is considered one incorrect answer.

    2> CAUSING U TO BE OFF LINE FOR LONGER THERE GOES ALL YOUR RESOURCES
    __________________________________________________ ______
    3.If you solve a Captcha, it will be longer before you are asked again. If you get it wrong, you'll get another one sooner.

    3> U CANT SEE THE CODE HOW CAN U ANSWER IT SO U CANT ACTIVATE YOUR GAME U LOSE A CITY MAYBE A GREAT HERO
    __________________________________________________ _____
    4.Most players will only see a Captcha once every few hours.

    4> CONTRADICTING YOUR OWEN WORDS AS SAID ABOVE Captcha once or twice per day

    EVERY FEW HOURS U COULD LOSE ALL YOUR CITYS AND HEROES THAT SOME PEOPLE PAY FOR
    __________________________________________________ ___
    5.Our goal is for the Captcha system to help clear the server of bots, give real players the advantage,

    5> DISABLING REAL PLAYERS FROM THE GAME CAUSING A MASSIVE LOSS TO THERE GAME
    __________________________________________________ ______

    IN NO WAY IS THIS HELPING ANY NORMAL PLAYER

    NOTHING U SAID THERE MAKES ANY LOGIC IN ANY WAY TO HELP THE PROBLEM

    THEY SYSTEM U ARE BRINGING IN TO THE GAME IS THE DOWNFALL OF YOUR "NORMAL PLAYERS"

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    Quote Originally Posted by macquari View Post
    For what it's worth, I see I have a red flag.

    I challenge anybody to look up my posts and say I have NOT posted in the best interest of the Evony community.

    I guess this is something like the old witch hunt test;
    • I do not like what you are saying
    • As such we tie your hands and feet
    • We throw you into the water
    • There, you sunk so you are a witch!

    if i recall, if you sink you not a witch, if you come back ok you witch......OMG YOU CAME BACK......must be a witch


    but i do agree with your post, think maybe some were taking out of context or the term "cheating" too literally.

    if i understood you correctly your use of words "coiining" and "cheating" was to illustrate the "unfair" [term used loosely - i'm not a witch] advantage alot of spending gives some players over those who cant, and illustrating advantage from bots not too dissimilar in its effect on the games "fairness"?

    except one is within the rules and one not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by macquari View Post
    For what it's worth, I see I have a red flag.

    I challenge anybody to look up my posts and say I have NOT posted in the best interest of the Evony community.

    I guess this is something like the old witch hunt test;
    • I do not like what you are saying
    • As such we tie your hands and feet
    • We throw you into the water
    • There, you sunk so you are a witch!


    All because you care about a game?

    If this is the case, please add more red flags whoever, I will have them shown proudly next to my name.

    Edit:
    The reason for my little red flag:

    From my post:
    The red flagger's comment:


    Well I am so sorry you are tired of it (not). Hower what I posted that got me the red flag:


    Tired of it or not, it's the truth and it cannot be denied it gives the party unable to coin at a disadvantage - which going right back to what I was commenting on, to put it in perspective, Dawnseeker's comment:


    I also said "Evony legal" cheating, which I clearly stated I also do.

    So this witch sinks with honor and truth to the hypocrisy of what is most likely a fellow coiner.

    If anything, it shows the mentality of some forum members.
    Well the options are I approve or I disapprove of this post and alot of ppl are going to disapprove of you calling coiners cheaters. We have alot more invested in this game then the casual player and are footing the bill to keep it free for them so the ones whining about coining need to **** or go play farmville. If they are truly good it won't matter if the person they are fighting is a coiner or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigNorr View Post
    Well the options are I approve or I disapprove of this post and alot of ppl are going to disapprove of you calling coiners cheaters. We have alot more invested in this game then the casual player and are footing the bill to keep it free for them so the ones whining about coining need to **** or go play farmville. If they are truly good it won't matter if the person they are fighting is a coiner or not.
    Exactly.

    I will strongly defend anyone's right to spend money on the game. I think, given the current level of customer service, that anyone spending money is foolish, but that is beside the point. Even if I completely despise you, I will not stoop to calling you a cheat for spending money. When you start running multiple accounts and botting, then yes, I'll call you a cheat, but not for just spending money.

    People signed up to play this game, and if they were not aware that you could spend money to get ahead when they first signed up, I would hope that the "SHOP" button and the INCESSANT mails trying to get you to spend money was enough to get the point across. If the fact that someone can afford to spend money and get ahead really makes you mad enough to spit nails and call them a cheater, then this game is not for you. If you attempt to negate the money that they spent by cheating, meaning anything other than spending money as well or spending time, sitting in a chair, in the bed on a laptop, on a mobile device, or whatever, PERSONALLY spending that time, not having a software program doing it for you, then what you are doing equates to STEALING, and for the life of me I don't know why so many people's moral compass is so non-functional that the fact that it is STEALING isn't self-evident.

    Further, there is this penchant to call people who disagree with botting "noobs" or whatever. Let me ask this:

    In the real world, if you are a law-abiding citizen, are you whatever equivalent term to "a noob" would be if applied to the real world? If so, then are those that are not law-abiding citizens "elite", "advanced", or whatever term you want to use, or are they simply crooks / thieves / swindlers / con artists?

    We're all guilty of doing wrong at one point in time in our lives, but those who cannot or will not see that what they are doing is wrong, especially a wrong to others and joking about it, I honestly pity you.

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    look at the attachment: enough said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neko_lord View Post
    Exactly.

    I will strongly defend anyone's right to spend money on the game. I think, given the current level of customer service, that anyone spending money is foolish, but that is beside the point. Even if I completely despise you, I will not stoop to calling you a cheat for spending money. When you start running multiple accounts and botting, then yes, I'll call you a cheat, but not for just spending money.
    fully agree with this, however, my understanding of the post was very different.

    It boils down to the interpretation of the word "cheat".

    when i read the post, i understood his use of the word "cheat" wrt coining to mean nothing more than taking advantage of a shortcut not available to all. NOT that coining was in the true sense cheating and should be frowned upon.

    But maybe i read it wrong lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by thierryd View Post
    Guys ?

    Scripts to detect+read+fill in captchas are all over the internet. And some of them are actually more reliable than the human eye...

    Any b0t user with the slightest hint of programming knowledge will be able to copy such a code into his b0t programme...

    The captcha system isn't doing any good, in fact it's just making things worse: captchas are yet another annoyance, which will push yet more people to favor the b0t interface rather than the official evony interface, simply because it's easier to use.

    Properly constructed b0ts have considerably less lag, especially where the map is concerned. They will have no captchas, as these will be automatically filled in.

    If the evony team really wants to fight b0ts - they have 2 things to do:

    1. Reinforce their b0t detection programme: spend time looking for common b0ts on the internet, disect them, and find out how to detect them, then Enforce the rules

    2. Make b0ts obsolete: remove all the small annoyances of the game interface, work on the lag for example; include a "farming b0t" in the official evony game engine so that people with large armies don't need to resort to b0tting/multi accounting to feed them (or set a food limit in cities/troop limit...)

    Trust me, captchas will do absolutely no good.
    It does not matter how diffifcult evony makes the captcha, the best de-captcha systems are services run by LIVE people. You pass the captcha image to the service and a real person responds.

    The moment you guys realize this, you will understand that regardless of Thantiums comments regarding a modualr captcha system (with the ability to update), it will always be broken because an actual human is answering it. In the end, the only people suffering will be the legit players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irchie View Post
    fully agree with this, however, my understanding of the post was very different.

    It boils down to the interpretation of the word "cheat".

    when i read the post, i understood his use of the word "cheat" wrt coining to mean nothing more than taking advantage of a shortcut not available to all. NOT that coining was in the true sense cheating and should be frowned upon.

    But maybe i read it wrong lol
    Read it again, and notice "From a moral perspective this is also cheating and on par with botting"

    Maybe it violates a personal sense of "fair play", but it is not prohibited in the rules, thus it is allowed, whether one likes it or not. Botting is not supposed to be allowed, whether one likes that or not either.

    If you want to lobby the company to have a no-coining server, then have at it, but DO NOT call people "cheaters" if they spend money, which is not a violation of the rules. Further, DO NOT attempt to steal that advantage back by doing ANYTHING other than spending your own money or busting your butt without having a piece of software do the work for you, and NO additional accounts either...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fraserm View Post
    look at the attachment: enough said.
    That does look horrible, but I'm noticing that the really bad ones are always the "Login" captchas. The "We have a gift for you" wasn't that bad, unless that's what you see for them now too. I'm wondering if they don't have the other login captcha that was there when you attempted to make a new account 5 times enabled and that's what you're seeing. It wouldn't suprise me if they didn't fully test it. They don't fully test for most anything else, so why start now

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