Page 117 of 160 FirstFirst ... 1767107115116117118119127 ... LastLast
Results 1,161 to 1,170 of 1592

Thread: Captchas Now Testing on ss57 and ss60

  1. #1161

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Thantium View Post
    Greetings all,

    Here is your daily post to blow out of proportion and flame me on!!!

    We have modified the captcha to add a reload feature so if you get one of those unreadable ones. This will help on those really hard to read ones. You asked for it, and you got it! We will still be working on it and tweaking some things.


    As a second note I need to reiterate what the last 3 pages have been complaining about.

    THE CAPTCHA WILL NOT LOG YOU OUT, THE CAPTCHA WILL NOT LOG YOU OUT.


    If you are AFK and the captcha comes up, the game will continue to run, and you should still see chat. You will not be able to enter any game commands, untill the captcha is answered.

    If you are being logged out when the captcha pops, it is because your "client" has sent in commands while the captcha is up, this can only happen if you are using a bot, as the normal game client cannot do this, and has been extensively tested.

    I'm reasonably confident that this system is working 100% correctly as in 100 pages of posts not one person has said that the pop up occurred and they got logged out while playing. I'll say that again.... Amazingly only people that AFK are saying they got logged out. I had the captcha up unanswered on the entire QA testing group of computers running multiple windows/tabs/ browsers OS' etc. About 75 different accounts and not a single one logged off last night, and they all had the captcha up when I looked at them. All stayed logged in.

    For the people that have submitted CS tickets in regards the captcha logging them off, we have asked them if they would like for us to review the player log data, with a warning that if we see bot use in the player logs ( pretty easy actually with a manual review) We will suspend and or close the account. So far every single person that was told this asked that we not inspect their account. We are looking for a example that we can verify where a captcha logged a player out while they where afk.
    This is a very positive development... and, yes, better late than never.
    Hats off to you for the first ever countermeasure against auto-play

    Now that you have sunk the botters, could you please find a way out for non-botters for whom the captcha could spell 'BIG trouble' in at least a few situations?

    1. When you are defending against mixed attacks (scout-bombs woven into an elaborate attack sequence), split-second gate control could make or break you.
    Imagine opening gates on minor spam and, then suddenly, a captcha popping up just as you are about to close gates on a massive mech attack

    2. When ambush-reinforcing an alliance-mate (sending troops to arrive at his/her city a second or two before the enemy's attack lands), the last thing you want is a pop-up that murders the timing.
    That would be like an ad popping up in the middle of a 911 emergency call.

    It would be great if you'd address these concerns too as you look into other legitimate concerns like those about readability.


    Finally, would it be possible to develop an anti-troll captcha?
    I'd pay top dollar for one that could be used on this forum

    Quote Originally Posted by neko_lord
    Note: 'Insert inane off-topic blah-blah here'

  2. #1162

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by MetalX View Post
    come talk to me ... 1 sided opinions
    Why would I attempt to talk to you further?


  3. #1163

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by KaylaMarie View Post
    1: If you are not an expert on something, you should not pretend to be. Thus the comments on the colorblind and what they can or can not see should not cross your keystrokes if you have never really looked deeply into the condition nor should the limitations or lack of limitations on a Dyslexics ability to correctly identify the letters and numbers in the captcha. For the few, and especially the specific one, that shed some light on the true meaning and possible extent of what Dyslexia can be?a big applause. That needed to be done. As far as the colorblind issues? Thantium dear, I will be glad to pull out that picture that someone posted earlier and show you where your theory of tonal values being strong enough is possibly wrong. Perhaps Desiree can go over it and point out the ones she cannot read with the help of her program or someone who can read them to tell her if she missed something. There are, however, some tonal values that I know from knowing a few colorblind people would be difficult to discern from each other such as the jade on sea green or the light maroon or tan over the pink.

    2. Think about implementing some such feature or finding a captcha that reads the activity of a user before it pops up. If you think about it, if a players account is sitting idle? what are the chances it?s a bot? If the players account is sending a high number of commands into the server that appears above normal? would the chances of it being a bot be higher? If they are average or slightly above normal, then it should not be defending and not likely in favor of the idea of being interrupted by the captcha that may cause a loss on their part. Is there no way to have a captcha triggered by a high increase in the level of activity or severe long-term drop if you must verify a dormant player?

    3. My favorite? Compensation packages and ?Gifts?. Starting with the 10k ea resource for answering the captcha correctly. Umm? to animate my enthusiasm over this: sits on hind quarters as if doing a neat trick and says ?arf arf!? ane waits for the pat on the head. Then bites your hand. Excuse me?. But what kind of fools do you take us for? Our cities produce more than that in a single 10 minutes. That is an insult. Take it away. I believe it was Dawnseeker saying they were against it. While for different reasons than I am, I?m sure, he was right. Get rid of the insulting gift.

    4. The lastly here requires a response for all of the players. When your captcha interrupts a players game and they lose something very valuable to them, say their 600 attack her for this scenario, what exactly are you going to do to appease them?? When they could have saved the hero IF your captcha had not popped up causing the player to fail to close gates during an attack. Keep in mind 10k each resource is simply a joke. That player will be fuming mad and ready to quit. We did not sign up for this game to build up, be proud of what we have only to have something Evony came up with to cause us a great loss when such a loss could have been prevented if Evony had not interfered. It was not part of the game and I will not simply accept you shrugging your shoulders and saying ?oh well? or as it seems in the past posts about this? the blatant overlook of what can be done for these situations where the captcha has cause a loss or problem. The chances of this happening is not up for discussion here. Whether great or small?. What do you guys plan on doing to compensate that player who lost their hero in an attack they were trying to defend against when it was the captcha, your program, that caused them to miss closing the gates? Your players want an answer to this.
    Vix you rock, couldn't have said it better myself!

  4. #1164
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Friesland
    Posts
    145

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by KaylaMarie View Post
    The lastly here requires a response for all of the players. When your captcha interrupts a players game and they lose something very valuable to them, say their 600 attack her for this scenario, what exactly are you going to do to appease them?? When they could have saved the hero IF your captcha had not popped up causing the player to fail to close gates during an attack.

    Uh your scenario is a little off since failing to close gates will never result in you losing a hero.

  5. #1165

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by erin View Post
    Its really amazing since one player on 139 brags all day long in world chat from his/her 30+ accounts about how many accounts he has, botting, buying accounts from people, and every other method of cheating you can imagine. Many, many, many people have reported him and yet nothing ever results from it. People screenshot the comments when he talks from multiple accounts one right after the other and yet we are given the impression Evony does not care one bit about this. Someone please explain to me how this is what you come up with when you completely ignore those that brag incessantly about their methods of cheating? If you really gave a crap about cheating you would actually respond to the complaints you receive. Why don't you just delete the button to report a player so you don't have to hear it?
    there is a guy on 148 who does the same thing and has been using some of his alts to send long range 1 worker attacks to multiple cities of certain players looped on a bot so they resend as soon as 1 lands for the last 6 months at least. Screenshots of his comments and whispers have been sent and the accounts that report it are ignored or worse - put in a 3 day holiday even if they aren't botters while he is still cheating - its a crock of shyte. I hope this captcha thing works, but until the rot is removed from within evony itself, I can't see it being a success.

  6. #1166

    Default Totally Agree

    Quote Originally Posted by bigjay89gta View Post
    I figured it out. Decide to randomly put this captcha on each server for a random amount of time, 2-10days. This will make you lots of money since people will holiday. The longer the time the more money spent or the more crippling the effect to the botters with huge food bills.

    The feeders and alts usually do not have cents on them to holiday and they will leave the bots on them...Since you say you can catch them. Now you have a easy way to catch all the feeders and alts . You can look at logs...a real player without cents would have to farm at least some on this alt accounts to feed their troops, whereas an alt account wouldnt be farmed because if they didnt holiday their main account they would be farming 10s all day on their main. Leaving no time to farm on alts and feeders. So before the captcha said alt account farmed on average 10hrs per day...after captcha nothing. Seems pretty easy to me.

    Seems like a win win. You make lots of money or make all the botters mad and possibly quit, and it looks like you are trying to do something about the botters when in reality you are just making more money.

    rofl:
    Evony is after all a business. so ofcourse they want to exploit all and any way of making more money. after all the game is a cash cow for them and they wil want to milk us of all our cash.

    this is suposed to be a war game right? Yet we have to farm 24/7 to feed armies. Why then isnt this game called FARMony!!

    In a world where we develop things such as cars to microwave ovens to make our lives easier and allow us more free time, evony want to make ppl's lives harder.

    we live in a automated world but in evo we are slaves in the middle age. like wtf.

    No matter if u were at one time using the trns glitch, hero transfer glitch, bots, multi accounts or have ur accounts baby sat by members of ur clans. It makes no difference to evony. all they want is what is in your pocket.

    so tomorrow the botters wil find a new bot to use. the glitchers wil find another glitch, multi accounts and baby sitters wil stil carry on as b4.

    I suspect evony want to do away wit age 1 and really want to focus on age 2. after all they are getting more money there. So where does that leave those of us who have spent thousands of dollars in age 1?

    Homeless and out on the street. Thanks for ur money, now get the lost.

  7. #1167

    Default

    The answer here is real obvious to me...
    Create servers specifically for players that use a bot.
    Send out mail. Allow us to choose servers where everyone bots and servers where its not allowed. Then put stoppers in place on the non-bot servers and let it be like normal on bot servers. Then do a merge...

    This is the most obvious answer that will appease EVERYONE!...

    DUHHH

  8. #1168

    Default

    OK since Im new to this Im going to go out on the Limb and say I send My 650 Att hero out to Phract wave a guy who I just killed walls and I want to time a few scout bombs in front all of a sudden I have this Captia pop up and I dont get the scout bombs in and I loose My hero what does Evony plan to do About this are they going to look at the logs and see yes he answered the captia right and lost his hero so lets give it back? I doubt that then they are going to have alot of reports of this and they will get tired of doing it and then They will loose players lke me that belive this was a free game to play and now I dont want to because I dont have my hero. Thanks for helping me quit this free to play game!

  9. #1169

    Default

    This is some fat b.s, so to hit botters you have to hit the rest of us? people use alts, account sit, bot all the time and when reported evony dont do shyt for us. Find a better way to find botters than making the good chunk of us honest players pay the price.

  10. #1170

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by 1BigDaddy View Post
    OK since Im new to this Im going to go out on the Limb and say I send My 650 Att hero out to Phract wave a guy who I just killed walls and I want to time a few scout bombs in front all of a sudden I have this Captia pop up and I dont get the scout bombs in and I loose My hero what does Evony plan to do About this are they going to look at the logs and see yes he answered the captia right and lost his hero so lets give it back? I doubt that then they are going to have alot of reports of this and they will get tired of doing it and then They will loose players lke me that belive this was a free game to play and now I dont want to because I dont have my hero. Thanks for helping me quit this free to play game!
    my point exactly, we shouldn't have to pay for them. And while your at it evony why don;t you get the account sitters and alt account users to make the playing field more even

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •