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Thread: Captchas Now Testing on ss57 and ss60

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    Sooo, let me get this straight. Your going to take a spreadsheet that is strewn with timers and stops and add another stop to it and try to tell people that it will make it better?

    Soooo not feeling it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imhotep88 View Post
    Well I've been following these captcha threads and reading all your posts from players and evony customer service reps alike, I've also spoken to many good friends who play on the servers currently afflictated by the captcha plague and the word on the street aint good Evony. I fully understand the reason why and how important it is that you rid servers of botters but it seems to me these latest measures are way too extreme and that Evony have somehow allowd themselves to become obssessed with catching botters and completely side tracked, tunnel vision..

    The thing that concerns me most when reading all these tales of woe is the randomness with which captcha pops up and interuppts the gamers RTS experience. If your just farming or training the hero then its not massive, granted. But what happens if your an active warrior and fight everyday or if you find yourself constantly under attack? its a game of numbers and the law of averages says its only a matter of time till a player losses their troops in an attack or defence play. Or even worse a hero you've spent thousands of $$ and time on..

    RTS games DONT have captcha codes popping up and interupting game play fullstop, I think when RTS games begin to be interrupted like this then they are no longer RTS.. Its complety unfair that either an attacking or defending player can be put to the disadvantage of being FORCED to stop play and enter a silly code while their opponent is still playing...Think about it Evony who the hell else does this?? Its like playing soccer and during a penalty shoot-out asking the Goalkeeper not to move..

    Just thought id share my 2 cents with ya'll which is 2 cents more than ima be sharing with Evony
    Yes I'm quoting my OWN post but here's the thing...

    While sitting on the toilet a few minutes ago i found myself thinking about all this captcha crazyness and have came up my own suggestion that i think is much fairer on everyone than the current system and its so simple i can't believe none of your techies have got on to it yet. Instead of having indvidual players interupt their game to stop and type a captcha why not just pause the ENTIRE server? Then everyone is entering the code at the same time and no-one is getting one over on their handicapped opponent, once EVERYONE has entered the code correctly and we're all sitting comfortably and ready to go un-pause the game and we all continue. Genius huh?

    Now I normally charge for idea's such as this Evony but im preppared to wave my fee for the greater good and benefit of the whole community so we can see this current situation resolved..

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    Quote Originally Posted by celtum View Post
    pardon me? My eyes must be playing tricks on me.... Oh now I see, you guys were talking about some other game right?

    Seriously, account sharing -as botting- prevents us from being able to cap cities as we normally could.

    "but people sharing accounts u cant kill there troops or take there resorces" ruudong1

    I'm trying as hard as I can to be nice here. I will simply say that you need more practice.

    Attacking in evony is truely an art that very few people have mastered
    1. Account sharing also prevents you from taking cities..
    2. True you can kill an online defenders troops and take their resources, theres many more variables that come into play than does attacking a bot... And a bot really doesn't have any ability to protect troops. Ultimately an online defender has the advantage over an attacker unless lacks combat skills, or pure overpowered imo.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jaftica View Post
    There are 3 issues we face in this game. One is botting. We know it happens, but anyone in here explaining why botting is unfair beyond farming 24/7, has had to have used one in the past or has had one of their alliance members using one which was explained to them. How else could you possibly know what they can and can not do.
    You don't need to use one or even have someone explain you about one to know what it is or how it works... Maybe for some people but this isnt the only game there made for. So many games have them dating back Long before evony was even thought of.
    Last edited by Threefifty; 08-06-2011 at 07:29 PM.

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    so this means that Evony will ignore their by-laws , their own rules , and not ban accounts. i believe its time to find another game to play not owned by these same folks.. what a shame..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaftica View Post
    We know it happens, but anyone in here explaining why botting is unfair beyond farming 24/7, has had to have used one in the past or has had one of their alliance members using one which was explained to them. How else could you possibly know what they can and can not do.
    Farming 24x7 is an ENORMOUS advantage, but you clearly don't think it is, else you wouldn't be using the words "unfair beyond farming". The words "unfair beyond farming" translate to "ONLY", as in you don't think that's much of an advantage.

    Also, your statements apparently apply to yourself, because how could you know what they can or cannot do, going by your own obtuse logic?

    So because I express my opinions here by quoting and responding to a few individuals, I get one that can't face people.
    You are able to click on the post it references, I believe. If not, then I'll provide you with some help:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaftica View Post
    LMAO!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by neko_lord View Post
    some drivel about nothing and took quotes completely out of context.
    The funniest thing about this, is that you responded to something I was saying in response to someone else and you do not get it.

    I will stop the convo as Thantium has asked, but for your information, I do spend money in the game. Like I said in my first response to you, I was responding in general to an issue that was brought up in this thread and as Thantium pointed out, does not belong in this thread. Though you just assumed that I was on the anti-coining side of the equation.
    trolling - denial of intent - sense of entitlement that you do not have - tired of seeing you and those of you on your side of the issue lob insults at people's intelligence (ad hominem attacks) rather than discussing the points
    This is my negative rep. Thank you to whomever sent it. I will wear it like a badge of honor, for I faced you and you could not face me. That is honor.
    You got the negative rep from me because you chose to condense what I said to "some drivel about nothing and took quotes completely out of context" rather than discuss the merits or demerits of what was posted.

    ...and you're welcome. I call it like I see it.

    BTW, your side is ultimately going to "win" in this, because I don't think the company is going to follow through. So, enjoy the "victory"...
    Last edited by neko_lord; 08-06-2011 at 07:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imhotep88 View Post
    Yes I'm quoting my OWN post but here's the thing...

    While sitting on the toilet a few minutes ago i found myself thinking about all this captcha crazyness and have came up my own suggestion that i think is much fairer on everyone than the current system and its so simple i can't believe none of your techies have got on to it yet. Instead of having indvidual players interupt their game to stop and type a captcha why not just pause the ENTIRE server? Then everyone is entering the code at the same time and no-one is getting one over on their handicapped opponent, once EVERYONE has entered the code correctly and we're all sitting comfortably and ready to go un-pause the game and we all continue. Genius huh?

    Now I normally charge for idea's such as this Evony but im preppared to wave my fee for the greater good and benefit of the whole community so we can see this current situation resolved..
    Not a bad idea. Not a bad idea at all

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    And I am ready for more....

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    these captchas suck,How am i expected to fill blank when i can't even see a number or letter.If you want to use captchas then at least make sure we can read the damned things.furthermore we use fillers as part of our strategy & thanks to these changes EVONY WILL LOSE MONEY.If we can't fill opponents state then its no use coining to buy ports to get into those states.

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    Evony is making it far more difficult than it has to be. There are only 2 angles to approach this.

    A. You want to maintain the integrity of the game, and you want people to play by the rules. If this is the case, you need to ENFORCE the rules by offering suspensions for ANY violations of the rules.

    B. You just care about money. If this is the case, you enforce the rules as above, offering the chance to pay a fee to avoid the suspension. Another idea that has been mentioned is to introduce an Evony approved bot people could spend coins on.

    Either way, you aren't going to accomplish anything without enforcing the rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neko_lord View Post
    Farming 24x7 is an ENORMOUS advantage, but you clearly don't think it is, else you wouldn't be using the words "unfair beyond farming". The words "unfair beyond farming" translate to "ONLY", as in you don't think that's much of an advantage.

    Also, your statements apparently apply to yourself, because how could you know what they can or cannot do, going by your own obtuse logic?

    You are able to click on the post it references, I believe. If not, then I'll provide you with some help:

    You got the negative rep from me because you chose to condense what I said to "some drivel about nothing and took quotes completely out of context" rather than discuss the merits or demerits of what was posted.

    ...and you're welcome. I call it like I see it.

    BTW, your side is ultimately going to "win" in this, because I don't think the company is going to follow through. So, enjoy the "victory"...
    Neko, I believe I used opinion many times in my write up. You and only you are the one that keeps thinking I am taking sides. You and only you are the one that took quotes from me out of context and chose to insinuate my position from them. Hence the reason I referred to your last post to me as drivel.

    My comments do apply to me. I had no idea what a bot was or what it did until someone explained it to me and this was just within the last month and I have been playing since Jan '10. This is the first web-based online game that I have ever played. There have even been people in this thread that have asked. Not all people go out of their way to find a way to cheat.

    I knew which post it referred to, though that did not give me the name of the person. If I am not mistaken, I did make a point of our last posts being of topic. Also, how can one discuss merits or demerits of what was posted when you butcher the intended posting to start with?

    My side wins. Again you assume. Has anyone ever told you what happens when you assume? Evidently not. This is no victory. I hope Evony continues in their efforts to find solutions to all of the cheating that goes on. I think the only reason they went after botting in the first place is because it was a cheat that was out of their control and they were not making money from it.

    Think about it. Multiple accounts=multiple places for a coiner to spend money, multiple places for anyone to spend money if they need to go away on holiday.
    Account watching=someone saving your account so you continue to play and pay, someone saving your best hero so you stay and pay.
    Botting=no money, accounts can be run 24/7 by them, only reason to holiday your account is if you do not have a watcher.

    I did not win a victory here Neko, far from it. My thinking was that there had to be a better way and maybe Evony did listen to a few of those smart guys posts about how they could do it.

    I think we both want the same thing. You want it using this atrocious method and I think there is a better way. I just hate the thinking that something is better than nothing. It is not in this case.
    Last edited by Jaftica; 08-06-2011 at 08:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaftica View Post
    I think we both want the same thing. You want it using this atrocious method and I think there is a better way. I just hate the thinking that something is better than nothing. It is not in this case.
    Well said.

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